cheese4242 (u/cheese4242)

cheese4242 commented on ‘ELITE’: The Palantir app ICE uses to find neighborhoods to raid werd.io/elite-the-palanti... · Posted by u/sdoering

idle_zealot · 2 months ago

The only issue would be logistics. Getting supporting infrastructure and housing set up. But yeah, ultimately. More hands, more consumers. Why wouldn't we want as many citizens as possible, we certainly have the land for it.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

I wonder in such a case if more populous countries like India or China could in theory send over 100 million+ people to our country over the course of a decade, and then once those people are citizens, legally vote for the US to be annexed by China, etc..

You could conquer a country without a single shot fired.

cheese4242 commented on ‘ELITE’: The Palantir app ICE uses to find neighborhoods to raid werd.io/elite-the-palanti... · Posted by u/sdoering

idle_zealot · 2 months ago

Nope. Access to food, water, shelter, and freedom of movement are fundamental human rights. I'm not a proponent of executing useless eaters. If you commit a crime with a prison sentence then you serve that sentence where you committed the crime.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

Thanks for taking the time to clarify your position.

So if China or some other country decided to send 10 million people here for whatever reason, you think our official policy should be to welcome then in and provide them food, shelter, etc...?

What about 100 million people?

Should they also be given citizenship and right to vote in addition to food/shelter?

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kevinsundar · 2 months ago

So the “ICE agent” presented identification to her showing he was law enforcement? Nope. Oh so he got out of a vehicle marked as ICE? Nope.

Do you want to live in a country where an unidentified masked individual with a gun can say “im a fed”, stop a car and force someone out without proper ID? That’s what you’re in support of. I’d say one would have a right to self defense.

Also internal bleeding was literally just a bruise, like the internal bleeding I get from walking into the corner of my coffee table.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

This is such a bizarre argument because the entire reason the two women were there in the first place is because they thought they were following ICE agents. Both women were part of "ICE Watch", an anti-ICE activist group. They had been following the agents around throughout the day, attempting to disrupt them, which is why the car was parked perpendicular in the street (to block the ICE vehicles) prior to the incident.

So to claim the women didn't know it was Federal law enforcement ordering them to exit the vehicle is baffling to me because that was the entire reason the women were there in the first place.

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kraquepype · 2 months ago

We've all seen the video.

You are working so hard to build and manufacture the narrative that fits in your mind, to the point where it can justify the actions of the officer.

There is no justification for shooting a woman point blank in the face, and you know it.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

If you believe said women is attempting to attack you with a deadly weapon (an accelerating vehicle that you were struck by in this case) that would fall pretty clearly under justified use of force.

cheese4242 commented on ‘ELITE’: The Palantir app ICE uses to find neighborhoods to raid werd.io/elite-the-palanti... · Posted by u/sdoering

kevinsundar · 2 months ago

It’s kinda funny that conservatives don’t have the ability to think for themselves and rather just repeat what others tell them.

Internal bleeding = a bruise

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

So you agree he was struck by the vehicle?

cheese4242 commented on ‘ELITE’: The Palantir app ICE uses to find neighborhoods to raid werd.io/elite-the-palanti... · Posted by u/sdoering

kevinsundar · 2 months ago

You can when they are wearing a mask and a gun and are trying to pull you out of your car. It’s called self defense.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

By this logic anybody could legally kill a police officer trying to arrest them.

cheese4242 commented on ‘ELITE’: The Palantir app ICE uses to find neighborhoods to raid werd.io/elite-the-palanti... · Posted by u/sdoering

negzero7 · 2 months ago

They can self deport and get paid doing so, it doesn't get any more humane than that really.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

Cost-free travel back home, a $1,000 exit bonus, and forgiveness of any "failure to depart" fines. Quite generous.

Over the Holidays they even increased the exit bonus to $3000: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/12/22/increased-incentives-dhs...

Yet another reason why I find the haphazard comparisons to Nazi Germany/Gestapo so farcical.

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idle_zealot · 2 months ago

1) You don't deport them, you don't ignore them, you document them. Then you let them live their lives. They're people, not a mold outgrowth that needs culling.

2) Check those stats a bit more closely. The vast majority of "deportations" were people turned away at the border.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

Would you support deporting people who are criminals? Or have no intention of ever working and just want to live off various welfare programs? Trying to find some common ground here.

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wat10000 · 2 months ago

Internal bleeding? Where do you get this nonsense? I keep seeing completely imaginary "facts" parroted about this case and I really want to know where they come from.

cheese4242 · 2 months ago

Happy to share: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-officer-who-shot-renee-good...