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cb5r commented on -2000 Lines of code (2004)   folklore.org/Negative_200... · Posted by u/xeonmc
pech0rin · 2 months ago
I'm sick and tired of all these AI generated comments. Oh you got the AI to use lower case! Wow it still writes the exact same way.
cb5r · 2 months ago
I advise checking out the users other comments before jumping to conclusions. Doesn't look AI generated to me, rather just an "individual" writing style. Only because it's possible doesn't mean its true. Maybe user can confirm?

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cb5r commented on Accelerating ZFS with Copy Offloading: BRT   klarasystems.com/articles... · Posted by u/tinyhands
cb5r · a year ago
Very interesting feature! Can anyone think of a real world use case for this?
cb5r commented on The magnificence of the bluefin tuna   newyorker.com/science/ele... · Posted by u/Petiver
ars · 2 years ago
Do you, personally, care?

Seems to me: Yes. And you are not alone, so actually, yah, it's working.

And why are you mentioning "eat them" there's nothing wrong with that. Destroy their homes is quite unrelated.

cb5r · 2 years ago
In almost every case imaginable it is wrong to "eating them". Eating them implies taking their life against their will.

Please supply one single reason why this is not wrong:

cb5r commented on The magnificence of the bluefin tuna   newyorker.com/science/ele... · Posted by u/Petiver
deadbolt · 2 years ago
Well I suppose it's both. However I would say we're setting up for a very large negative impact on most animals on the planet, including humans.

Your post was flagged (not by me) so I can't go back for exact context, but I do agree with you, zoos are pretty messed up.

I feel like seeing wildlife, even in non-native habitats, may help encourage people to act to conserve that wildlife. Seeing a creature in real life is different than in a video.

Edit: I went back and looked at your replies to other people. I will have to think about this more.

cb5r · 2 years ago
Oh, I didn't see it got flagged... Breaks my heart every time to see this happen when someone gives a voice to the voiceless. Then again, I would have disagreed with myself only 3 years ago, before I took some time to inform myself about ethics, especially in regard to non-human animals. Wish I'd have done it sooner...
cb5r commented on The magnificence of the bluefin tuna   newyorker.com/science/ele... · Posted by u/Petiver
ars · 2 years ago
Your worldview is very very very narrow. The reality is that kids who don't visit zoos, or farms grow up not caring at all about animals. Because to them animals aren't "real", they are these distant things that have nothing to do with them.

On the other hand when they see conservation status "threatened" on the sign by the animal they wonder about it.

And there's nothing wrong with putting an animal is a zoo - you are correct, they don't behave the same. But that doesn't make it wrong. Animals are not trophies to be displayed in the wild and always to be some distant unknowable thing.

Instead animals and humans share the same planet and we should encounter them up close, and experience them, and zoo's are how you do it.

You are relegating animals to these "things" that no one ever sees or hears about - or cares about.

cb5r · 2 years ago
My world view would be classified as "ethical", because I take the feelings and desires of others into account and don't put myself before them - which you, on the other hand, don't. And this is the exact same reason why humans exploit animals in every possible way imaginable, reasoning with all kinds if "pseudo-arguments" that don't hold up a logical and ethical consistency check.

"Because they are animals" is not an argument. The singular fact that you state that humans aren't animals implies that you are lacking even the most basic knowledge in biology. Given that, I can understand that applying ethics on top of that is currently too much to ask.

After all, maybe a good documentary film, that actually deals with these topics, could help you with that. I can assure you that no zoo will.

cb5r commented on The magnificence of the bluefin tuna   newyorker.com/science/ele... · Posted by u/Petiver
localplume · 2 years ago
do you think the same for fish tanks? that when kids see fish tanks they think its OK to capture animals for their own amusement? What an insanely biased POV. zoos are fantastic for conservation and giving kids a view into a world beyond the one in which they live day-to-day.
cb5r · 2 years ago
What makes you think that fish are in ANY way different than land animals or even humans? Why should they not suffer from being captured and not being able to live freely in their natural habitat?

In what way is my POV biased? What you describe is a purely egoistic attitude. Ask the question: Who does this serve?

Your answer might be: primarily the animals (this includes fish). But this is not true, as the only reason we would have to conserve any species in the first place is because we humans (almost) drove them to extinction by e.g. killing them for profit (e.g. leather, ivory, etc.), burning their habitat for animal feed (which happens when you eat land animal meat) or by overfishing (which happens when you eat fish). Either way, the reason is not valid because the root cause is driven by human behavior, which almost all people causing it could change it in an instant - but they choose not to. Why? Because their pleasure is more important than non-human animals' lives.

Hence, the answer is: the humans who pay for it. It only serves the entertainment of humans at the cost of the (non-human) animals.

Kids visiting a zoo for sure don't consciously think "its OK to capture animals for amusement", but they get subconsciously conditioned by the fact that it is portrayed as "normal".

My guess is that you never researched about how zoos work. If you did, I promise you will be shocked what happens behind the scenes in order to "give kids a view into a world beyond the one in which they live day-to-day".

cb5r commented on The magnificence of the bluefin tuna   newyorker.com/science/ele... · Posted by u/Petiver
wirrbel · 2 years ago
As long as we are slaughtering animals for food, public zoos are our least concern. Of course they need to be regulated
cb5r · 2 years ago
Slaughtering animals for food is indeed a much bigger problem and probably one of largest issues we currently have - ranging over ethical issues, environmental issues, health issues and socioeconomic issues.

However, this does not mean that "smaller" problems are somehow not worth mentioning/tackling. IMO zoos, just like TV shows for children in which cartoon animals are portrayed to live happy lives on farms, happy cows on products, etc. are all tiny little but VERY effective weapons for the industry to manipulate people into thinking that using animals for profit is actually good, because the animals are said to be so happy. The opposite is true.

cb5r commented on The magnificence of the bluefin tuna   newyorker.com/science/ele... · Posted by u/Petiver
thepostman0 · 2 years ago
This specific documentary

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt14152756/

So many things I didn't appreciate

cb5r · 2 years ago
^ THIS is a must see.

Not all zoos in the world combined will educate you like this 90 minute video does.

u/cb5r

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