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bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
tecoholic · 9 days ago
This is one of my favourite styles of illustration and I really wanted to know the source. I read so many children’s books for my son and sometimes I take books from the library just for this clean style.

I know it wouldn’t have happened easily with Nano. Banana to keep things consistent across multiple images. I haven’t tried recently, but image generation gets progressively worse (darker and off base) as you generate multiple of them. So kudos for the amazing art.

As someone who had an interest in drawing as a child and have bought trackpads and tablets, but never had the time & developed the skill to actually create the things that I imagine, I completely understand what you did.

I know some people are going to be upset at model generated illustrations. But I think the alternate is probably, no illustrations. There’s a lot of unnecessary AI image slop all around and most add no value or worse makes you just avoid reading the content by their awfulness. This was done really well and I am not sure I would have read it fully without it.

bryantwolf · 9 days ago
Shoot a way to contact you to tecoholic at bawolf.com and I'll invite you to a copy of the board you can duplicate and mess around with.

I appreciate the sentiment and I agree. While I think there are countless humans who could do way better, I was never going to hire someone to illustrate this. Furthermore, I don't think it reads very interestingly without the images. I doubt it would have even gotten published.

But now thousands of people have seen it, it's shown that it can strike a chord. Maybe it is worth polishing a little more. It would be adorable as a small book

bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
htrp · 9 days ago
how many iterations did you use for flora ai to generate the imagery?
bryantwolf · 9 days ago
I bought the starter membership which is 20k credits for $18 and I have 5.7k credits left. They charge 50 credits a generation for nano banana. There was some LLM usage to plan the images too so the math is a little blurry but that should give you a rough sense
bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
FreakLegion · 9 days ago
You did do pretty well! I don't think the final result was ruined at all. Not many people will notice things like his pants only being brown in the first image, or their eyes only having whites in the third image, or his jacket sometimes having a hood and sometimes not.

Compared to what we see on most blogs, even patio11's, this is capital-A Art.

bryantwolf · 9 days ago
I actually thought a lot about the eye whites! He didn’t look nervous enough without them
bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
perfmode · 9 days ago
The end result is quite stunning. quite beautiful. Thanks for taking the time to create it.
bryantwolf · 9 days ago
Thank you for saying so. I’m glad it connected with you
bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
with · 9 days ago
The metaphor is broken. The snowball grows passively over time naturally, but being a founder requires you to actively create value in your startup. Snow doesn't choose to stick to your ball based on PMF, and the entire piece romanticizes grinding without once mentioning customers, revenue, or whether you're solving a real problem people will pay for.

I think it's dangerous sentiment to say if you create a snowball (startup) and just keep pushing it forever it is guaranteed to grow to something large. Some might say "duh, of course", but I still think a lot of people don't understand this.

bryantwolf · 9 days ago
You’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think that’s what I wrote.
bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
DiscourseFan · 9 days ago
So the art isn't AI generated either? Idk why people trust these "AI checker" sites when they have been shown time and again to be inaccurate at best, often defamatory at worst.
bryantwolf · 9 days ago
I too am skeptical we’ll really be able to catch everyone. By making public tools we just create evals to beat the tools etc.

Still, right now I think we can tell, so I focused on making sure they were my words, but I let an llm help edit and I think it honestly made it much more readable

bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
paulryanrogers · 9 days ago
Seems to stretch an one analogy in too many different directions. I guess the point of losing control is the most true.
bryantwolf · 9 days ago
What parts felt too stretched? Or just as a composition would you have preferred I narrow it down? I thought it was fun that it goes a little overboard. To me it felt like doing so captured just how much these journeys can change over time.

I tried to focus on 3 main bits:

Early exploration, problems between people, and then how much is ultimately in or out of your control

bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
FreakLegion · 9 days ago
The images are AI-generated. This makes them automatically bad in some people's view, but I think they're reasonably fitting here. With a little bit of work (e.g. attention to consistency between frames, blending into the site background) they could even be good.
bryantwolf · 9 days ago
I’d love some thoughts here on the consistency. I thougt I actually did pretty well! But I can see how I might be blind to mind own work here.

What ruined it for you?

bryantwolf commented on Founding is a snowball   blog.bawolf.com/p/foundin... · Posted by u/bryantwolf
bryantwolf · 9 days ago
Hey hacker news! I wrote this and I’m glad it connected with folks.

To answer a few of your comments:

Writing is all mine but I had Claude proofread it, in addition to some close friends. Honestly it pointed out some great weaknesses in the original draft.

The art is all nano-banana through a tool called flora ai. I’d love to work with a human illustrator for something like this. I can draw, but I can’t paint and there’s an aesthetic here I think it handles better than I would have.

Man, it’s amazing that I can get something out there that expresses a vision all by myself. If this were a revenue generating project like an actual children’s book or something I’d love to work with someone that could bring it to life a bit more.

u/bryantwolf

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