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bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
pfdietz · 3 years ago
And it's fine to patent specific (and novel) varieties of potato. The patent just applies to that specific variety, not to the general concept of improving potatoes. It's irrelevant that other specific varieties may have been bred for millenia.
bob29 · 3 years ago
So PepsiCo can utilize others prior breeding work, but prevents others from using their variety’s to breed with ?

If everyone who bred a potato patented it, we all suffer as breeders would be limited in what they can work with.

http://www.jwz.org

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bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
bob29 · 3 years ago
[Square bracket number citation link thingy https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-pepsi-farmers/pepsi...]

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bob29 · 3 years ago
He doesn’t respond so I win by default . Righteous troll:1 Capitalist corporation defender: 0
bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
pfdietz · 3 years ago
That's a whopper of a non sequitur. I was asking about the specific patent on these potatoes. Our ancestors have been growing this specific patented version of potatoes for thousands of years? Really?
bob29 · 3 years ago
No, they have been cross pollinating parents with desirable traits to produce an offspring with more desirable traits. The same thing Pepsi did to make FC5 potato.

Here is the patent for the FC5 potato.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6940004B2/en

Read it carefully because while the patent claims that it also would apply if transgenic modifications are added, the variety was developed through just classic breeding techniques, which are described in the patent in case you aren’t familiar.

bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
pfdietz · 3 years ago
And you evidence that the patents for these potatoes was "overly broad generic obvious and/or trivial" is...?
bob29 · 3 years ago
Our illiterate ancestors have been doing it for thousands of years.
bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
pfdietz · 3 years ago
So, your objection to patents is that they are enforced when violated?
bob29 · 3 years ago
No. Objection when they are overly broad generic obvious and\or trivial

Am surprised even need to explain on this forum of coders. Many examples of bad boy software patents.

bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
tptacek · 3 years ago
Uh huh.
bob29 · 3 years ago
[Square bracket number citation link thingy https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-pepsi-farmers/pepsi...]

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bob29 commented on “Open source” seeds loosen Big Ag’s grip on farmers   worldsensorium.com/open-s... · Posted by u/dnetesn
tptacek · 3 years ago
Nothing you can do with water, soil, and sunlight is going to produce RoundUp --- or a RoundUp-Ready seed.

It's perfectly reasonable to oppose all patents. Just don't pretend the wind, sun, and dirt somehow invalidate seed patents. There's no distinction to draw.

bob29 · 3 years ago
People have been sued for growing patented potatoes, unrelated to round up . . . Ok?

U take tuber u put it in ground it grows more tubers u try to sell BOOM illegal son .

bob29 commented on Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun   lajili.com/posts/post-2/... · Posted by u/iraldir
bob29 · 3 years ago
emperor has no clothes but this forum is full of people who wasted their money investing it and/or get paid to work on it.

today "AI is just spicy autocomplete" gets flagged off front page.

For MONTHS, front page has been full of sub-script-kiddie level "AI" tools that are just `curl "{static_prompt} + {user_input}" http://chatgptapi`

or mediocre examples of things that would have been impressive a computer could do in 1960, but are absolutely easier to do since 2010 with google or other tools.

bob29 commented on My Journey from R to Julia   drtomasaragon.github.io/p... · Posted by u/michelpereira
mxkopy · 3 years ago
This is bad faith pedantry
bob29 · 3 years ago
Being technically correct is the best feeling in the universe

u/bob29

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Please stop trolling. I don't want to have to ban you. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

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No. I vow to never stop trolling. Please ban me with the most severe methods at your disposal. Ban every account I've ever made, every device, browser, user agent, and every IP I've ever used to visit this site. If you do not, I will use every ounce of my vitality to incessantly troll the comments here. I realize now this site is an echo chamber amplifying only what I consider to be the most dispicable parts of humanity: cruelty, exploitation and greed. I want no shred of my uniqueness and diversity of thought to contribute in any way what so ever the conversation here, (except in trolling form, to diminish it, which I will do unless you ban me as I requested in the first paragraph).

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