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bertday commented on Google warns staff about chatbots   reuters.com/technology/go... · Posted by u/kjhughes
CSMastermind · 2 years ago
I initially thought that maybe they were concerned about license violations, copyright infringement, etc. because you can't always be sure where the llms are sourcing their information from.

But rather it seems like they're warning against information leaking out?

> The Google parent has advised employees not to enter its confidential materials into AI chatbots, the people said and the company confirmed, citing long-standing policy on safeguarding information.

Is there any example of this happening in the real world? I've never heard of one.

Even if you were to give me access to some google source code free and clear I'm not sure what I could do with it. It's often only useful with the build systems, other services, external documentation, and tribal knowledge contained within the company.

Sure if I had unfettered access to all of the Google source for a product for long enough I might be able to find a security vulnerability or something but random chunks of code pieced together from the inputs to some chat bot?

Just seems like an impractical attack vector.

bertday · 2 years ago
The model can return the internal details of a potential future product. For example, the next Pixel phone.

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bertday commented on Ask HN: How do you work in Programming language research?    · Posted by u/Micoloth
fluffyspork · 2 years ago
I don't think in a language. I think about what I want to do and then write code to do it.
bertday · 2 years ago
The language is supposed to tell you if your thinking is broken. If a program is a logical statement, and your logic is impossible, the program should not compile. Reading dead memory or having race conditions should not be possible, yet look at security vulnerabilities today.
bertday commented on Ask HN: How do you work in Programming language research?    · Posted by u/Micoloth
fluffyspork · 2 years ago
I agree with the first sentence. I don't think in 2023 a new programming language will help humans in a significant way.
bertday · 2 years ago
It doesn’t have to be a totally new language. Javascript is an example where there are multiple front-end languages. You can go as far as formally prove the implementation is correct, too. Language theory is an abstraction for mathematical logic and proofs, so it touches anything logical at all.
bertday commented on Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts   theverge.com/2023/6/13/23... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
binkHN · 2 years ago
> Quora

This has to be one of these most useless sites on the Internet and it blows my mind how frequently the content from this site is exposed via Google search. Now that I think about it, I think I should probably just block it on my local DNS server.

bertday · 2 years ago
Quora is often self-promotion now. The template I think of when replying to your comment is:

Great point you bring up on how useless <website> is. As the CEO of <random company>, this is a problem we have put a lot of effort into addressing. You may consider the following as a solution: …

bertday commented on Ask HN: How do you work in Programming language research?    · Posted by u/Micoloth
fluffyspork · 2 years ago
Are programming languages really a limiting factor for anyone?
bertday · 2 years ago
Sure, writing bug-free code is not possible for most programmers. The language can reduce the occurrence of bugs.
bertday commented on Americans have never been so unwilling to relocate for a new job   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
xmcqdpt2 · 2 years ago
This is probably a big reason why gigantic cities are continuing to grow everywhere. The best way to reduce the stress of being laid off is to move somewhere with as many employers as possible.
bertday · 2 years ago
New York Times ran an article yesterday saying otherwise. First tier cities, in terms of size, are losing people, but second tier cities are growing. The cost of living in the largest cities puts a negative force on moving to them.
mirker commented on Dynamic Branch Prediction with Perceptrons (2000) [pdf]   cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/academi... · Posted by u/luu
bjourne · 2 years ago
Modern branch predictors are based on relatively simple state machines and already have >95% accuracy. Thus, even if machine learning-based predictors can sometimes beat them, it is not clear that they can beat them enough for the much more complicated circuitry they need to be worth it.
mirker · 2 years ago
One thing to point out is that the threshold of predictor complexity is dependent on the execution pipeline. A very speculative and deep architecture has a bigger need for better predictors, since it has a massive penalty when there is a misprediction.
mirker commented on Releasing 3B and 7B RedPajama   together.xyz/blog/redpaja... · Posted by u/antimatter15
mirker · 2 years ago
Does anyone have experience using these open source models in production?
mirker commented on MaMMUT: A simple vision-encoder text-decoder architecture for multimodal tasks   ai.googleblog.com/2023/05... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
light_hue_1 · 2 years ago
That's Google.

I don't bother to read most Google papers unless someone tells me that they're doing something astounding. Just because I know I don't have access to their models, their code or their data. So what's the point?

As a community we need to stop accepting and stop citing papers like these.

There is no science without replicability, and it is literally impossible to replicate this work. It's not worth the paper it's printed on.

It's fine if Google wants to play with its toys at home. But we should stop pretending this is research of any value.

mirker · 2 years ago
There is a ton of value. OpenAI having proprietary LLMs single handedly pivoted the entire field to LLMs. A random GitHub repository doesn’t come close to impact.

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