They normally are trying to keep their IPs and Network clean of scammers abusing their resources, which inevitably hurt all customers.
HN is still my go to source of news about almost anything. Ukraine crisis, health tech, startups, computer history, new technologies... anything. Right now, I literally have hundreds (yes) tabs open to just read the comments.
But HN also made me learn something. It was first 3-4 years ago and I still see the same signals every month or at least at 2-3 months. It is: "even if you have %98 correlation between things you and other people like there can be some fundamental differences between you and them and if you dig these things you will just drift apart"
We have a lot in common. A lot of us believes on tried and tested technologies instead of latest SmthJS. We still advocate Firefox instead of Chrome to serve libre software. We think that the power and money is highly concentrated on a handful of people and the distribution is not fair (but not the "5 families are managing the world" shit). We want free flowing data. We want the soul of web 1.0 back. Etc..
But what's detail and what's fundamental is different per person and I think the things we agree on is the details. We are different in fundamentals. We have very different world views and we fundamentally want different things from life.
Ok, 2 paragraphs ago I said that I noticed these things 3-4 years ago and here is the samples I remember:
* It was first started with GDPR. I possibly can't find the comment but I literally read a comment saying: "These are the reasons why Europe can't have successful startups. For a 3-4 people startup there is no way to delete PII from db. There is too much foreign keys in db to do that. Also we have sharding, replication etc. This increases the costs for smaller startups".
MVP and "over engineering" are not binary terms. There must be a middle ground. But we can't agree on that because the middle ground changes based on our opinions. And in my opinion Privacy is not something you can gloss over for mvp or because you are a startup. For example can you save clear-text passwords just because you are startup? What about SSL? Even letsencrypt requires some work. Do you thing this is a "burden on startups"? What about people in Germany who wants their home to be blurred on maps software? If you can't satisfy their demands then maybe you are not in their market to sell your software. Just please stop pretending you are immune to the problems because you are not "big enough". What's the difference between the news from 2010s that Facebook employee reading old girlfriends private messages and your developer can do a select * from users where gender="female"?
* Contemning people who prefer a more work-life balanced work and a hand of government on "free market" is another thing bothers me. By the way I'm from Turkey and I don't have a horse in EU-US game but "oh, you make 60k in 1 year? what a loser", "EU don't have startups because they go home at 5pm", "They don't have startups because they don't do hackathons" or "They don't have startups because they have unions" is a just a very myopic way of looking at life.
The United States is the only country among the 38 member OECD nations that has not passed laws requiring businesses and corporations to offer paid maternity leave to their employees. Netherlands will send a nurse for 1 whole week to the home of the mother and they will even do the groceries so the mother can get at least a little sleep. I will just rest my case here. Oh sorry, I also think that no one in Germany gets bankrupt just because they call an ambulance.
* Why can't we have businesses? Just normal businesses without obsession over growth, being a unicorn, getting bought by FAANG or IPO? Why don't we have more pinboard, screenjar, nomadlist, simpleanalytics or lunchmoney? I learned all of this sites from HN and I'm pretty sure they are operating like normal businesses.
I can understand that after you become successful, someone or some company can approach you to buy you. But starting with that idea from day 1? I can't understand that. Linode got acquired, redis also, lastpass too. Why do I have to constantly follow the blog/news pages of the companies I work with so that my information does not fall into the hands of companies I do not want? Why can't you silicon valley guys can't just have an idea, execute that idea with a couple of developers, employ some accountant, hr manager etc and call it a day? Raise the prices yearly a little bir more than inflation and live a life? Maybe answer some customer mails yourself so thay can also feel a connection. Maybe just meet some of your customers? I can't understand the obsession with growth. That's the reason why our planet is in this situation. You can double your growth infinitely and keep a healthy relationship with anything.
But, I love you guys. I can say that in the last 10 years possibly %40 of the things I learned was from HN. I wish you a happy weekend.
It was an amazing social network in every way. It had great UX and minimal UI, it was fast, had power features but was still simple to use and the idea of lifestream meets social feed still makes perfect sense.
The community it gathered allowed me to jumpstart at my career at the age of ~14. I even discovered HN on FF. It’s been nearly 10 years after I first signed up and I still meet people IRL that I’ve followed on FF. It’s always like meeting your countrymen in a foreign country. We talk about the old country before Zuckerberg bought it.
https://windsurf.com/privacy-policy
Am I the only one bothered by this? Same with Gemini Advanced (paid) training on your prompts. It feels like I’m paying with money, but also handing over my entire codebase to improve your products. Can’t you do synthetic training data generation at this point, along with the massive amount of Q/A online to not require this?
It says:
Zero-data retention mode is the default for any user on a team or enterprise plan and can be enabled by any individual from their profile page.
With zero-data retention mode enabled, code data is not persisted at our servers or by any of our subprocessors. The code data is still visible to our servers in memory for the lifetime of the request, and may exist for a slightly longer period (on the order of minutes to hours) for prompt caching The code data submitted by zero-data retention mode users will never be trained on. Again, zero-data retention mode is on by default for teams and enterprise customers.