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axy commented on Armbian and Devuan = Armvuan github.com/declassed-art/... · Posted by u/axy

bArray · 2 years ago

> Expanding out the stack here, Armvuan = Armbian + Devuan = ARM + Debian + Debian - systemd, so Armvuan = systemd-less Debian for ARM?

Not quite:

Armvuan = Armbian U Devuan = (Debian + ARM) U (Debian & ¬systemd) = Debian + ARM

Therefore: Armvuan == Armbian

If you look at the top of the file tree, Armbian is checked out as a submodule and forms the basis of the project. Also note that the commit history is short and makes no mention of Devuan: https://github.com/declassed-art/armvuan/commits/main

axy · 2 years ago

btw Armbian U Devuan is wrong, hn replaces + with and in title which is incorrect in this context

axy commented on Armbian and Devuan = Armvuan github.com/declassed-art/... · Posted by u/axy

bArray · 2 years ago

> Expanding out the stack here, Armvuan = Armbian + Devuan = ARM + Debian + Debian - systemd, so Armvuan = systemd-less Debian for ARM?

Not quite:

Armvuan = Armbian U Devuan = (Debian + ARM) U (Debian & ¬systemd) = Debian + ARM

Therefore: Armvuan == Armbian

If you look at the top of the file tree, Armbian is checked out as a submodule and forms the basis of the project. Also note that the commit history is short and makes no mention of Devuan: https://github.com/declassed-art/armvuan/commits/main

axy · 2 years ago

Daedalus is the codename of Devuan's current release (same as bookworm in Debian) and it's on the top of tree too. Well, almost. Anyway, it's visible on gh.

I would not say Armbian is the basis of the project. Its builder is just a useful tool. I tried to distance from it as far as possible, bearing in mind Devuan's arm-sdk as the next toy to play with. I gave it a try as well, but found Armbian builder is better.

axy commented on Armbian and Devuan = Armvuan github.com/declassed-art/... · Posted by u/axy

einpoklum · 2 years ago

> Both Armbian and Devuan have their own toolchains for ARM boards and both have fatal flaws: the former is locked to systemd-based distros, the latter has poor support for ARM boards.

Isn't it possible to improve Devuan's toolchain so that it better supports ARM boards?

And, for that matter - isn't it possible to do the same for Debian itself, so that the delta to Devuan would inherit decent support for ARM boards?

I'm not a toolchain expert, so an answer with links to explanation of relevant concepts/jaron would be appreciated.

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Regardless - I'm always happy to hear news about widening adoption and influence of Devuan. I believe a non-systemd distribution is the way to go and am glad Devuan offers that for the Debian space (while Debian, unfortunately, forces systemd on you and it's not just an option).

axy · 2 years ago

Everything is possible, the question is who will do that. I'm not an expert in anything either. Both toolchains make me depressed. But I'm glad I can run Devuan on my boards at last. Many thanks to both projects.

axy commented on Innernet: A private network system that uses WireGuard under the hood github.com/tonarino/inner... · Posted by u/cmfcruz

axy · 3 years ago

Noticed listening port 32875. I still wonder why even WG developer chose 51820. Well, I understand on their small containers shit never happens, but I thought they are aware of ip_local_port_range