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anotherman554 commented on Introducing Superalignment   openai.com/blog/introduci... · Posted by u/tim_sw
skinner_ · 2 years ago
This effort is led by Ilya Sutskever. Listening to a bunch of interviews with him, and talking to a bunch of people who know him personally, I don't think he cares at all about AIs saying naughty words.
anotherman554 · 2 years ago
Openai certainly does, they are sending out emails to people using the AI for NSFW roleplay and warning them they'll be banned if they continue. They've also recently updated their API to make it harder to generate NSFW content.
anotherman554 commented on Twitter refuses to pay arbitration costs for 891 laid-off workers, lawsuit says   arstechnica.com/tech-poli... · Posted by u/_djo_
sidewndr46 · 2 years ago
Arbitration isn't free. Someone has to pay for it. If the company won't pay for it, they aren't going to process a claim.

At this point it is kind of moot because if Twitter won't pay the fee, they obviously won't pay the judgement issued against them.

anotherman554 · 2 years ago
Presumably the arbitration judgement against them can be enforced in plain old ordinary court.
anotherman554 commented on Introducing Superalignment   openai.com/blog/introduci... · Posted by u/tim_sw
DennisP · 2 years ago
Lots of leading AI researchers actually are taking it seriously, including of course OpenAI, and recently Geoffrey Hinton who basically invented deep learning.
anotherman554 · 2 years ago
Okay but as far as I know Geoffrey Hinton isn't an "A.I. Alignment Researcher." He was fairly dismissive about the risks of AI in his March 2023 interview and changed his mind by May 2023. I'm not sure that says much about the A.I. Alignment Researcher field.
anotherman554 commented on Introducing Superalignment   openai.com/blog/introduci... · Posted by u/tim_sw
og_kalu · 2 years ago
Open AI spent at least hundreds of millions on GPT-4 compute. Assuming they aren't lying, a fifth of compute budget (billions) is an awful lot of money to put on an issue they don't think is as pertinent as they are presenting.

Not that I think Super Intelligence can be aligned anyway.

Point is, whether they are right or wrong, I believe they genuinely think this to be an issue.

anotherman554 · 2 years ago
A more cynical take would be they'll be spending the compute on more mundane engineering problems like making sure the AI doesn't say any naughty words, while calling it "Super Intelligence Alignment Research."
anotherman554 commented on Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?    · Posted by u/freelanddev
throwaway675309 · 2 years ago
You're missing the point. The writing is not what's being critiqued here. If we were grading this purely from a prosaic perspective, GPT would easily fly under the radar. The issue is the substance of the generated content - devoid of even the most minimal novelty.
anotherman554 · 2 years ago
You are confused. In an undergraduate English literature class a student is not expected to come up with a novel interpretation of a well known book in order to pass.

Depending on the assignment you aren't necessarily expected to read anyone else's take on a book and you aren't expected to make sure you are saying something that hasn't been said before or anything like that.

You are simply expected to analyze the book and offer an interpretation.

And it's not like that's the only way to use the AI. With a few minutes of effort, I just got CHATGPT to write an essay using "post-colonial theory" to interpret the Wizard of Oz, which was pretty interesting.

anotherman554 commented on Google says it'll scrape everything online for AI   gizmodo.com/google-says-i... · Posted by u/rntn
yonatan8070 · 2 years ago
I'm thinking, what if someone would add in their blog's terms of use something like "the content on this blog is not for machine learning purposes"? Could they later sue Google if their site gets scraped by Google for LLM training?
anotherman554 · 2 years ago
A contract requires an agreement between two parties. I don't see how writing "the content on this blog is not for machine learning purposes" alone shows Google has agreed to your terms.
anotherman554 commented on Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?    · Posted by u/freelanddev
hollandheese · 2 years ago
That sounds like a bad 8th grader's essay, just pure bullcrap. These ideas would get an F in any English 101 course.
anotherman554 · 2 years ago
I'd say it would be good enough to pass an undergraduate class if it was expanded. Did you ever teach a class? I have not but as I understand it you'll have some students that aren't so good at writing, and some that are good. You don't want to discourage the weaker students from growing by giving them F's.

This isn't a field like engineering where there are objective right and wrong answers and anyone dies if you pass the students who are not so great at writing essays on literature.

anotherman554 commented on Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?    · Posted by u/freelanddev
joeframbach · 2 years ago
Genuinely curious - what religions are being described here? It doesn't match my limited understanding of any religions I'm familiar with.
anotherman554 · 2 years ago
I didn't ask GPT to describe any particular religion. My prompt was

"As a literary critic, describe how Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz is a religious figure."

The divine being contained within I would think would match Buddhism pretty well.

The reference to relics is too vague to pin down to any religion, there's probably lots of examples of it in lots of religions. If I had to defend it off the top if my head I'd compare the Ruby slippers to the "holy moly" herb Athena gives Odysseus to defend him from Circe.

If anything I think GPT went wrong saying strength is one of the virtues associated with the Lion. It would be much easier to focus on courage and say he needs to learn to be like a brave apostle who says things like "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with me:"

My point wasn't that this essay was particularly good, necessarily, only that it was was good enough for undergraduate work.

anotherman554 commented on Ask HN: Are people in tech inside an AI echo chamber?    · Posted by u/freelanddev
bigger_inside · 2 years ago
I teach college, and in the beginning days, everyone was screaming about "the students will have chatGPT write papers now".

Well, apart from the fact that chatGPT is really incapable of developing a thought, and also apart from the fact that half will fail to delete sentences like "I'm a language model, so I can't..." (insert gist of question here), it's painfully obvious if something is LLM generated.

The moment a sentence like "it's crucial to remember" pops up, I know what this is. Then, there's also the element that it always sounds like it's speaking to a child, and it avoids actually saying things unequivocally without some sort of disclaimer, as the legal department's CYA filter will ensure.

I remain thoroughly unimpressed by the entire venture. If this is Skynet 1.0, we're all safe for centuries to come.

anotherman554 · 2 years ago
This isn't true and it's odd you believe it.

I just asked Chat GPT 4 to explain the religious significance of the Wizard of Oz as a literary critic. Here's some of what it gave me, it doesn't write anything like you claim it does:

"Moreover, Dorothy's companions -- the Scarecrow seeking a brain (wisdom), the Tin Man seeking a heart (love/compassion), and the Lion seeking courage (strength) -- symbolize spiritual virtues that are often extolled in religious texts. They embark on this quest together, mirroring the communal aspect of many religions.

The slippers (silver in the book, ruby in the film) can be viewed as sacred objects, or relics, that assist her in her journey, providing divine protection and eventually leading her to salvation (returning home).

Finally, the revelation that the Wizard is a mere mortal, and that Dorothy had the power to return home all along, imparts a spiritual lesson often found in religious narratives: the divine or the sacred is not external, but within us."

If I was a student I could have easily expanded on these concepts (with or without GPT) and turned in a good essay.

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