You wouldn't hire a former prostitute who put themselves through education to better themselves and get a mainstream job?
Is the prostitution on their resume?
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_t0du commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
alexbanks commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
A little odd patting someone on the back for claims with no substance. It’s easy to make up a story with all sorts of feel-good ingredients to virtue signal in a thread about a bad guy. If it was all unicorns and butterflies, why not name the company so the morally-aligned folk can find safe haven?
As I said in the other post of mine that you commented on, you're welcome to not agree with me (or anyone, I don't care), that's totally fine with me.
alexbanks commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
alexbanks commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
I hope so.
I wish I could give more information but maybe it's best to keep names out considering the context ;)
I mean, without knowing anything about you or your company other than what you posted above, it's hard to say. But in my experience the industry could use more morality based hiring standards, as well as morality-based repercussions for bad behavior. Kudos to you.
_t0du commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
Exactly why we have interview problems in engineering. I respect engineers for having opinions and ethics and they should lean on them, but to bar one from employment because they were doing their job is wrong, immoral, and potentially illegal.
What if the job they were "just" doing exists in a legal grey area? Or, more realistically, is flatout illegal?
alexbanks commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
I mean, I believe that there should be a Hippocratic Oath in software, but I'm not sure where your particular cutoff bar stands. My view of software is against the mainstream: most programmers should dedicate their time to build tools for scientists, to solve actual problems and advance our species. Current tech is mostly trash, useless and nobody needs it.
It's difficult to know what/where the line is for sure, but I think lots of software has shifted away from making people's lives better. Facebook, Amazon, Uber, are doing more negative for humanity than positive I think. Sure, they offer a service that might not've existed before, at least in that iteration or scale, but at what point are the negatives outweighing the positives?
Sure, you "connect" people to friends/family they may not be able to see in person or communicate with regularly. You're also verifiably playing god with information and misinformation, as well as spying on your users, selling their data to other people that want to spy on them, paying employees to view toxic content (which results in PTSD), etc. Is all this worth being able to communicate with people you don't really care about, or that don't really care about you?
alexbanks commented on Facebook staffer sends 'blood on my hands' memo bbc.com/news/technology-5... · Posted by u/danroseai
I've taken a hard line with people who work at Facebook. If you're still there and unwilling to represent the failings your company has done to society, then I need to hear a justification before moving further in the conversation. I don't think I've ever felt this strongly about a tech company.
I know that's tough but it's a matter of ethics. And frankly, Facebook is an amazing technical institution, and I would love to work with the majority of them based on technical chops alone.
I've put my money where my mouth is on this sort of thing in the past - I passed on an Uber employee who worked on the "god mode" feature and had no opinions on it making the news or its being abused other than "I was just building the feature". It made the news for abusiveness, at least have a little remorse!
So Facebook employees, please understand, if I ever meet you in a technical interview, there will be a five minute section for a hard "liberal arts" question politely lobbed your way :)
I feel this way about lots more than Facebook. BigTech is committing atrocities every day, and the developers that work there are generally complicit in that behavior. I think it's fine to say "I'm not proud but the money was life changing" - that can be true, when most people are faced with that proposition would go with the life changing money. But it seems wild to think that Amazon or Facebook or Google employees should be applauded for their work, or should feel proud - lots of it is actively harmful to me as a human.
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_t0du commented on Red flags I saw while doing technical interviews blog.interviewing.io/6-re... · Posted by u/leeny