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agota commented on Productivity porn   calebschoepp.com/blog/202... · Posted by u/triplechill
drcode · 4 years ago
When you listen to Jocko talk about himself, you are not getting an honest accounting about an actual human being

Your are being given a story created by Jocko to build the Jocko mythos. Jocko will not let any truths get in the way of a good story about the mythical Jocko. His artisinal leather boots and cologne don't sell themselves, you know.

agota · 4 years ago
I tend to believe what he says because I don't get the "narcissist cult leader" vibe from him.

I do get that vibe from the vast majority of popular content creators in the "hustle" niche, though.

_69x2 commented on Productivity porn   calebschoepp.com/blog/202... · Posted by u/triplechill
CSMastermind · 4 years ago
Sure, the people I know who:

- Focused on getting passive income streams set up through real estate, stock investment, content creation, retail arbitrage, etc.

- Were particularly frugal with their money and avoided travel, parties, 'lifestyle creep', etc.

- Attempted to min/max their careers by switching jobs every 1.5 to 2 years and negotiating hard each time.

Are:

- Still not retired in their mid to late 30s.

- On track to retire in their early 50s.

- Slightly behind their peers in terms of career progression.

While those who joined big tech, worked hard, and let their equity compound are basically on pace to retire at the same age while also getting to spend their youth traveling, partying, and generally enjoying life.

Plus, I've found the people who were hyper focused on retiring early or achieving financial independence to be less happy and more self-critical about their financial decisions.

_69x2 · 4 years ago
>Plus, I've found the people who were hyper focused on retiring early or achieving financial independence to be less happy and more self-critical about their financial decisions.

I also wanted to comment on this.

What I have observed about FIRE folks is that they start optimizing everything for FIRE.

This isn't a healthy way to live, certainly not in the long run, and it's not like this goes away once they reach FIRE.

Here's an article where Mrs. Money Mustache shared how uncomfortable she was about her parents taking her and their son to the movies, then to an ice cream place.

She was already retired, literally a millionaire.

https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/07/27/youll-never-be-no...

agota commented on Productivity porn   calebschoepp.com/blog/202... · Posted by u/triplechill
CSMastermind · 4 years ago
Sure, the people I know who:

- Focused on getting passive income streams set up through real estate, stock investment, content creation, retail arbitrage, etc.

- Were particularly frugal with their money and avoided travel, parties, 'lifestyle creep', etc.

- Attempted to min/max their careers by switching jobs every 1.5 to 2 years and negotiating hard each time.

Are:

- Still not retired in their mid to late 30s.

- On track to retire in their early 50s.

- Slightly behind their peers in terms of career progression.

While those who joined big tech, worked hard, and let their equity compound are basically on pace to retire at the same age while also getting to spend their youth traveling, partying, and generally enjoying life.

Plus, I've found the people who were hyper focused on retiring early or achieving financial independence to be less happy and more self-critical about their financial decisions.

agota · 4 years ago
I believe that one reason for this is that FIRE, passive income, entrepreneurship, etc. attracts people who are looking for shortcuts.

This means that they are optimizing for the short term, which is counterproductive to success in any area of life.

Back in the 2010s we saw this with niche sites, ebooks, info products, etc.

It worked for some but it's probably safe to say that learning to code and getting a tech job would have had better ROI for most people who went down that route.

At the moment we are seeing this in the crypto space, where you have all these guys in their 20s who are "investing in crypto" (gambling) because they want a Lamborghini ASAP.

They would likely be better off learning to code and getting a tech job, but they can’t see it at the moment because they don’t have the perspective that comes with time.

agota commented on Productivity porn   calebschoepp.com/blog/202... · Posted by u/triplechill
neilv · 4 years ago
Finally, an innovation in dating site profiles!
agota · 4 years ago
That was my first thought as well. Is this a dating profile?
agota commented on Productivity porn   calebschoepp.com/blog/202... · Posted by u/triplechill
999900000999 · 4 years ago
Life advice, self help, etc, all of it is too general to be helpful to anyone.

What works for a 46 year old married mother of 3 probably won't be what works for a 23 year old tech nerd.

You have this obsession with becoming some type of super human who can do things vastly beyond your peers.

Sure the average 30 year old living in LA will never buy a home.

That doesn't concern you super elite hustle bro. Hustle so hard you have 3 houses, 2 lifted trucks, and a dog who can speak basic French.

Most of us are by definition average. Actual life advice for our above character would be to move somewhere with affordable housing, only buy a lifted truck if you have cash, etc.

No body wants to read.

"Fix your life over 18 to 24 months by making difficult choices"

People want.

"Fix your life in 3 weeks, only takes 30 minutes a day"

agota · 4 years ago
>"Fix your life in 3 weeks, only takes 30 minutes a day"

More like "This ONE Tip Will Change Your Life!"

agota commented on Productivity porn   calebschoepp.com/blog/202... · Posted by u/triplechill
biztos · 4 years ago
One of the original, and most effective, competition hacks is to convince people that you sleep less than they do.

When someone tells you they sleep 5 hours a night then run two miles and take a 15-minute cold shower then start their work day, 85% of the time they are lying, 10% of the time you will have already noticed the effects of chronic sleep deprivation, and 5% of the time it's drugs.

But this has been a surefire way to put your competitors on the back foot for hundreds, probably thousands of years.

agota · 4 years ago
You need to account for genetic outliers.

IIRC, Jocko Willink believes that his ability to function on little sleep is genetic, he just doesn't need much of it.

He has mentioned that this was a running joke in the Seal teams, which presumably consist of people already selected for their ability to function on little sleep, not your average "7 - 8 hours of sleep" folks.

But then normal people who need an average amount of sleep start "getting after it" by waking up at 4.30 AM because that's what Jocko does.

You can wake up at 4.30 AM as a normal person, but you'd need to go to sleep at 8.30 PM - 9.30 PM for that to be sustainable.

You can't "discipline equals freedom" yourself into optimal performance under perpetual sleep deprivation.

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agota commented on A dirty dish by the sink can be a big marriage problem   theatlantic.com/family/ar... · Posted by u/wiihack
tsol · 4 years ago
In general by explaining behavior by societal trends you're removing agency. To say women are making their choices because of the way they're influenced is to say women cannot make independent choices without being swayed by outside influences. It's kind of a paradoxical thing
agota · 4 years ago
What human being on the planet can make choices without being swayed by outside influences?
agota commented on A dirty dish by the sink can be a big marriage problem   theatlantic.com/family/ar... · Posted by u/wiihack
phatfish · 4 years ago
My guess is there is a "feng shui" side to cleanliness, tripping over clothes or having a sink full of dishes is more likely to affect you if you are in contact with it more often.

But also i think there is a biological reason. Mothers notice dangers to young children more, as on an evolutionary time scale they were responsible for protecting a child from birth, when the child is most vulnerable.

Keeping things clean stops any nasty avoidable accidents.

agota · 4 years ago
I have the same theory on women having been selected for caring about their environment.

I see that as an argument for choosing traditional gender roles because it seems to me that one of the main causes of conflict in 50/50 relationships are these arguments about chores, tidiness, etc.

Splitting chores 50/50 seems like asking for trouble given that men and women have evolved differently in this regard - he ends up feeling that she's endlessly nagging him, she ends up feeling that she has to manage him like a child.

Seems like the traditional breadwinner/homemaker setup would be a solution to this problem.

agota commented on A dirty dish by the sink can be a big marriage problem   theatlantic.com/family/ar... · Posted by u/wiihack
jelliclesfarm · 4 years ago
This is a marriage. They are not celebrities. He is profiting from the dissolution of a marriage with a one sided narrative.
agota · 4 years ago
Him monetizing his divorce like that is disturbing if the wife didn't agree to this.

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