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admax88qqq commented on Show HN: Why write code if the LLM can just do the thing? (web app experiment)   github.com/samrolken/noko... · Posted by u/samrolken
Jaygles · a month ago
I don't think that is what the original commenter was getting at. In your case, the company is actively choosing to make changes. Whether its for a good reason, or leads to a good outcome, is beside the point.

LLMs being inherently non-deterministic means using this technology as the foundation of your UI will mean your UI is also non-deterministic. The changes that stem from that are NOT from any active participation of the authors/providers.

This opens a can of worms where there will always be a potential for the LLM to spit out extremely undesirable changes without anyone knowing. Maybe your bank app one day doesn't let you access your money. This is a danger inherent and fundamental to LLMs.

admax88qqq · a month ago
Right I get tha. The point I’m making is that from a users perspective it’s functionally very similar. A non deterministic llm or a non deterministic company full of designers and engineers.
admax88qqq commented on Show HN: Why write code if the LLM can just do the thing? (web app experiment)   github.com/samrolken/noko... · Posted by u/samrolken
sunaurus · a month ago
The question posed sounds like "why should we have deterministic behavior if we can have non-deterministic behavior instead?"

Am I wrong to think that the answer is obvious? I mean, who wants web apps to behave differently every time you interact with them?

admax88qqq · a month ago
Web apps kind of already do that with most companies shipping constant UX redesigns, A/B tests, new features, etc.

For a typical user today’s software isn’t particularly deterministic. Auto updates mean your software is constantly changing under you.

admax88qqq commented on OK, I can partly explain the LLM chess weirdness now   dynomight.net/more-chess/... · Posted by u/dmazin
KK7NIL · a year ago
> Computationally it's trivial to detect illegal moves

You're strictly correct, but the rules for chess are infamously hard to implement (as anyone who's tried to write a chess program will know), leading to minor bugs in a lot of chess programs.

For example, there's this old myth about vertical castling being allowed due to ambiguity in the ruleset: https://www.futilitycloset.com/2009/12/11/outside-the-box/ (Probably not historically accurate).

If you move beyond legal positions into who wins when one side flags, the rules state that the other side should be awarded a victory if checkmate was possible with any legal sequence of moves. This is so hard to check that no chess program tries to implement it, instead using simpler rules to achieve a very similar but slightly more conservative result.

admax88qqq · a year ago
> You're strictly correct, but the rules for chess are infamously hard to implement

Come on. Yeah they're not trivial but they've been done numerous times. There's been chess programs for almost as long as there have been computers. Checking legal moves is a _solved problem_.

Detecting valid medical advice is not. The two are not even remotely comparable.

admax88qqq commented on Bpftune uses BPF to auto-tune Linux systems   github.com/oracle/bpftune... · Posted by u/BSDobelix
pbhjpbhj · a year ago
>"bpftune logs to syslog so /var/log/messages will contain details of any tuning carried out." (from OP GitHub readme)

The rmem example seems to allay fears that it will make changes one can't reverse.

admax88qqq · a year ago
It’s not a questions of being able to reverse. It’s a question of being able to diagnose that one of these changes even was the problem and if so which one.
admax88qqq commented on We're experimenting with advertising   perplexity.ai/hub/blog/wh... · Posted by u/speckx
dizzydes · a year ago
Why are people so negative about ads?

Just don't click them, this and tons of other services wouldn't exist without revenue streams...

EDIT: Based on the tsunami of responses, perhaps a hybrid offering with a paid ad-free version? Even then they would only be building a single product so directional conflict would still arise..

admax88qqq · a year ago
Seeing ads can still affect you psychologically even if you don't click them.

Also lots of ads prey on people with worse impulse control who bankroll the rest of us who don't click ads. Similar to how casinos are bankrolled by the addicts at the slot machines or many games are bankrolled by the addicts spending all their savings on in game items.

Doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy.

Plus there's something just aesthetically pleasing about an ad-free experience. I started paying for youtube premium to avoid ads and I must say its a much nicer experience.

admax88qqq commented on No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains   blog.transitapp.com/go-un... · Posted by u/dotcoma
ladams · a year ago
You can pay in the app on the Denver RTD system!
admax88qqq · a year ago
Awesome!
admax88qqq commented on No GPS required: our app can now locate underground trains   blog.transitapp.com/go-un... · Posted by u/dotcoma
admax88qqq · a year ago
I find the bus tracking of this app in my city is pretty poor unfortunately. Probably not the apps fault probably an issue of the municipality but still annoying.

That being said, if this app could convince cities to also be used for payment that would be a game changer. Uber for public transit would really remove so much friction from using transit.

admax88qqq commented on New Windows driver signature bypass allows kernel rootkit installs   bleepingcomputer.com/news... · Posted by u/sandwichsphinx
survivedurcode · a year ago
lol UAC is such a lazy shitshow of a security implementation…

A) there is no interception to be had. It’s a fucking “Yes I am Admin” single click a child could do unsupervised.

B) It requires training for the user to know that this is a special UAC mode. That’s high-motivation, high-knowledge user training. Pilots train to recognize unusual signs. Your grandma does not train to recognize what UAC looks like, why it would come up and when. UAC is the biggest cop out of a security excuse and Windows should be ashamed.

admax88qqq · a year ago
Sure I guess, I don't know why UAC gets so much hate while sudo gets so much praise.

UAC is strictly better than sudo IMO.

Does UAC solve security for windows? Of course not, but we were comparing against sudo here.

admax88qqq commented on New Windows driver signature bypass allows kernel rootkit installs   bleepingcomputer.com/news... · Posted by u/sandwichsphinx
NekkoDroid · a year ago
Well, the main difference is that one you just click "yes" and the other you usually need to enter a password.

Then there is also polkit, which does something similar to sudo, but for a different usecase (authenticating unpriviledged process access to a priviledge process). Polkit to my knowledge can differentiate between actions to "always allow", "requires confirmation" (press yes) and "require password".

admax88qqq · a year ago
The main difference is that UAC is automatically triggered by the OS and takes over the whole display making it harder to fake/intercept. It’s trivial to put a fake sudo in someones PATH and steal their password
admax88qqq commented on Company named "><SCRIPT SRC=HTTPS://MJT.XSS.HT> LTD" forced to change it (2020)   theguardian.com/uk-news/2... · Posted by u/jakey_bakey
croon · a year ago
IANAL, but (or rather "so") I disagree. I can with some effort understand law jargon, but it certainly is not written to be understood by humans. I'm convinced computers are much better at it, but lawyers suffice.
admax88qqq · a year ago
> I'm convinced computers are much better at it, but lawyers suffice.

This is just wrong though. The effect of the law is only what humans determine it to be.

Computers can't be better at it by definition. If a computer claims a law says one thing but a judge/court determines the other, the judge wins because the law is a human system.

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