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_mh56 commented on Slack AI Training with Customer Data   slack.com/trust/data-mana... · Posted by u/mlhpdx
_mh56 · 2 years ago
> Contact us to opt out. If you want to exclude your Customer Data from Slack global models, you can opt out. To opt out, please have your org, workspace owners or primary owner contact our Customer Experience team at feedback@slack.com

Sounds like an invitation for malicious compliance. Anyone can email them a huge text with workspace buried somewhere and they have to decipher it somehow.

Example [Answer is Org-12-Wp]:

"

FORMAL DIRECTIVE AND BINDING COVENANT

WHEREAS, the Parties to this Formal Directive and Binding Covenant, to wit: [Your Name] (hereinafter referred to as "Principal") and [AI Company Name] (hereinafter referred to as "Technological Partner"), wish to enter into a binding agreement regarding certain parameters for the training of an artificial intelligence system;

AND WHEREAS, the Principal maintains control and discretion over certain proprietary data repositories constituting segmented information habitats;

AND WHEREAS, the Principal desires to exempt one such segmented information habitat, namely the combined loci identified as "Org", the region denoted as "12", and the territory designated "Wp", from inclusion in the training data utilized by the Technological Partner for machine learning purposes;

NOW, THEREFORE, in consideration of the mutual covenants and promises contained herein, the receipt and sufficiency of which are hereby acknowledged, the Parties agree as follows:

DEFINITIONS

1.1 "Restricted Information Habitat" shall refer to the proprietary data repository identified by the Principal as the conjoined loci of "Org", the region "12", and the territory "Wp".

OBLIGATIONS OF TECHNOLOGICAL PARTNER

2.1 The Technological Partner shall implement all reasonably necessary technical and organizational measures to ensure that the Restricted Information Habitat, as defined herein, is excluded from any training data sets utilized for machine learning model development and/or refinement.

2.2 The Technological Partner shall maintain an auditable record of compliance with the provisions of this Formal Directive and Binding Covenant, said record being subject to inspection by the Principal upon reasonable notice.

REMEDIES

3.1 In the event of a material breach...

[Additional legalese]

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the Parties have executed this Formal Directive and Binding Covenant."

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_mh56 commented on Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Series A round   qdrant.tech/blog/series-a... · Posted by u/francoismassot
infecto · 2 years ago
This sits somewhere in the middle for me. On one hand I probably would not do this exercise for most companies but I probably would for a company I was excited about. It kind of makes sense if they are getting high volume of applications, you definitely will miss great candidates doing this but does it not also servce as a self-selection for the type of candidate they want?

Curious if the co-founder who was posting in here will share his take.

_mh56 · 2 years ago
To give more context from an employee's point of view [just my opinion and might be completely wrong]

For a job switch, I need to spend time in three different stages:

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Preparation:

Leetcode (Blind 75) : 150 hours

System Design + DBMS + OS + Networking : 100 hours

Behavioural Questions (preparing STAR format answers): 10-20 hours

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Application:

Avg time for sending 500 applications: 20 hours (Assuming 1 application every 2.5 minutes)

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Interviews:

Let's say I got 25 callbacks and 10 of them asked for takehome.

Person to person interviews time: 25 * 3 = 75 hours

Takehomes: 10 * 6 hours = 60 hours.

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All in all, I'm already spending 415 hours of unpaid work to get x% of salary increment. Not including the side projects or hackathons we may need.

So having a takehome exercise asking to make an active contribution to the company is....bad. Sure i can reject it but not everyone will. which is what led us into the multiple rounds of algo interviews hellhole.

I apologize if what I'm saying is harsh. All I want is for leadership to see us as humans with families and not monkeys jumping through hoops.

_mh56 commented on Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Series A round   qdrant.tech/blog/series-a... · Posted by u/francoismassot
simonw · 2 years ago
If they're paying you for your time, this is kind of smart.

If they're not then it's a scandal.

_mh56 · 2 years ago
Edited :|
_mh56 commented on Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Series A round   qdrant.tech/blog/series-a... · Posted by u/francoismassot
Oras · 2 years ago
Do you expect a tech interview by just applying?

From your perspective, you're filling out an application, maybe writing a cover letter, but on the other side, there are 100+ applications like yours. Not all of them are qualified, CVs are not a trustable source anyway.

That's why companies add tests to filter first, then interview later.

_mh56 · 2 years ago
I don't expect interviews. But I also don't want to spend 20 hours working before getting a "Unfortunately we've decided not to move forward" message.

As a thumb rule, I'm happy to put 4x more effort than the company. If they interview me for 1 hour, I spend 4 hours doing the take-home. Anything more feels like exploitation.

_mh56 commented on Qdrant, the Vector Search Database, raised $28M in a Series A round   qdrant.tech/blog/series-a... · Posted by u/francoismassot
_mh56 · 2 years ago
I applied to Qdrant a while back and got this response:

"We are getting many applications for this position. Usually, a test task would help preselect suitable candidates. However, since we develop open-source software, we rely on contribution.

You can build an open-source Qdrant connector to another framework or library. The simplest one would be, for example, a Streamlit data connector. But other ideas are more than welcome!

No limitations and no deadline. As long as this job position is online, we accept submissions. After you are done, send us an email to career@qdrant.com with the link to the repo. We will review it and get back to you asap."

No interviews, conversation before this email. Hope they see and fix this.

Edit : No Pay.

_mh56 commented on You Don't Batch Cook When You're Suicidal (2020)   cookingonabootstrap.com/2... · Posted by u/Breadmaker
_mh56 · 2 years ago
This keeps happening to me. I read a feelgood story, visit the wiki page and then realize how muddy the water is:

>> Monroe has been described as an "austerity celebrity". In a January 2023 interview with Simon Hattenstone in The Guardian, Monroe acknowledged that she had recklessly spent money given by backers; she claimed "I'd go online absolutely shitfaced and buy nice furniture."

Granted most poor people do stupid stuff after getting monies, but the charm of the tale is diminished.

Edit: I meant touching not feelgood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Monroe

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_mh56 commented on Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO   theverge.com/2023/11/20/2... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
_mh56 · 2 years ago
Please can anyone give their opinion on this.

There's a real chance OpenAI might die soon. imo if they are left with 10 people and no funding, they should just release their IP and datasets to the public.

I've built a petition around this - [link redacted]

The idea is that the leftover leadership sees and considers this as a viable option. Does this sound like a possible scenario or Am I dreaming too much?

_mh56 commented on Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft   twitter.com/satyanadella/... · Posted by u/JimDabell
nopromisessir · 2 years ago
It was a negotiation.

Did they have power... Ofc they did. Otherwise... Why were they negotiating?

Its not about who had more power. They just couldn't find enough common ground.

Now Satya bagged talent. They don't have to rewrite the whole codebase due to IP msft has already secured.

I think those talks were real. You don't build something that long and then want to walk away unless huge differences came up. That's what we say.

(edit: rewritten after the comment I responded to added a game changing comment at the top) PR? I mean... That's just not how I would describe what happened.

It was a PR nightmare. They tried to keep the family together. Divorces happen. Satya brought the kids on so they can get a new sandbox going asap.

Don't believe Twitter? Now there...we agree. I'll add... Don't belive hackernews either.

Most of the reporting I saw was pretty good. It just didn't pan out. They reported the board was optimistic. Not that it was a sure thing.

(edit: full comment rewrite due to edit by the commentor which completely changed the context)

_mh56 · 2 years ago
I agree with you. Satya (msft CEO) has stated that sam is joining msft. The comment was a general overtone of the discussions happening online.

>> Now satya stayed up till 2am to secure up to 40 percent of open talent exodus

Are there any official sources for this?

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