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_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
cuchoi · 5 years ago
Sadly still not available, do you know of any fully functional alternatives? Even if more expensive. Just surprised no one has done a Transferwise / traditional bank alternative yet considering it is one of the main publicized advantages of Bitcoin.

Strike is promising a lot (which is exciting!) but don't have a fully functional product yet.

_iswk · 5 years ago
I'm not aware of any alternative. Hopefully the global launch is not too far away.
_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
robjan · 5 years ago
A Forex trade is still taking place so there must be a counterparty. The USD don't just disappear and reappear as EUR. Someone is buying them on the other side. Getting a better rate implies the counterparty getting a worse rate.
_iswk · 5 years ago
I'm not sure I understand your criticism. The USD is used to buy BTC. The BTC is then sold for EUR. There's no Forex trade, not directly at least.
_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
robjan · 5 years ago
If they are able to beat the interbank rate it means they are either buying the currency from someone below market value (in which case that person is being shafted) or taking on Forex risk themselves.
_iswk · 5 years ago
From the article:

> Strike maintains a live Forex rate and compares that to its own rate before every transaction. However, in our testing, a Strike international transfer has never been done at an unfavorable exchange rate when compared to Forex rates. Shockingly (or maybe not) it was even cheaper sometimes, exposing the flaws and lag in Forex rates and how they are used. Bitcoin, as the most liquid, globally transferable asset is already acting as the new world reserve currency with Strike.

_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
tootahe45 · 5 years ago
This must be the 4th time ive seen this app linked here and every time i go to use it THERE IS NO WORKING PRODUCT THAT I CAN USE. Also the hipster tone from the founder of this app makes me cringe every time because it seems very forced.
_iswk · 5 years ago
I thought this was Hacker News? What does the personal style of the founder have to do with the technology?

The app has already launched in the US and you can use it if you live there. Global launch is coming soon - they're running a trial in El Salvador.

Why is a community of makers hating on a fellow maker? Beats me.

_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
_delibash_ · 5 years ago
There's always a cost. Even if you do not see it in the numbers.
_iswk · 5 years ago
No doubt. But that also applies to the legacy financial system. It's just much more difficult to calculate.
_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
joosters · 5 years ago
It’s telling that the amount is always specified in dollars, because that’s the stuff that actually people want and use. And if you wanted to convert it to usable dollars, it would cost thousands of times more.
_iswk · 5 years ago
Again, and I hate to keep repeating myself, but this is not true and just shows that people are not doing their research and/or they're stuck in 2016.

Strike (https://global.strike.me) has built a product in which they use Bitcoin and the Lightning Network to send money (fiat currency like USD, EUR, etc.) around the world instantaneously and at virtually no cost. In some cases, they are able to offer exchange rates that are better than the inter-bank FX rate.

Explanation of how it works: https://jimmymow.medium.com/announcing-strike-global-2392b90...

_iswk commented on $38M USD moved for half a penny   nitter.42l.fr/WhaleAlertB... · Posted by u/hggh
sedeki · 5 years ago
Exactly. These type of posts and comments ignore the fact that the actual transaction costs involved are higher, perhaps even much higher.
_iswk · 5 years ago
This is not true. I'm sorry to post this twice but it's relevant to the discussion and also an answer to the OP.

Strike (https://global.strike.me) has built a product in which they use Bitcoin and the Lightning Network to send money (fiat currency like USD, EUR, etc.) around the world instantaneously and at virtually no cost. In some cases, they are able to offer exchange rates that are better than the inter-bank FX rate.

Explanation of how it works: https://jimmymow.medium.com/announcing-strike-global-2392b90...

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