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Weirdfuture commented on Starbucks illegally fired US workers over union, judge rules   bbc.co.uk/news/business-6... · Posted by u/pmoriarty
supernova87a · 3 years ago
Can news articles/reporters ever quote the actual original court ruling that they use to source their stories? I find it amazingly rare that journalists feel that they should show people where they get the key finding of their story, and rather lazily present their story as if they were the controlling authority and only source of information.

Given how rich the original information is to link to (like, a 200 page PDF ruling), this is a bit of journalistic travesty to leave it out. Compared to how much hearsay they seem to accept as a source in day to day stories, yet go to lengths to name the person's name.

And "For more information on this breaking issue, go to KABC.com!" Yeah, thanks a lot for that in-depth reporting!

Does anyone know where to find the PDF of this one?

Weirdfuture · 3 years ago
Starbucks Illegally Fired Workers.

nico@nico-dev.me I'll send you a parent comment from a hacker news post called "Starbucks illegally fired US workers over union, judge rules", remember it

Okay, I will keep that in mind.

nico@nico-dev.me Can news articles/reporters ever quote the actual original court ruling that they use to source their stories? I find it amazingly rare that journalists feel that they should show people where they get the key finding of their story, and rather lazily present their story as if they were the controlling authority and only source of information. Given how rich the original information is to link to (like, a 200 page PDF ruling), this is a bit of journalistic travesty to leave it out. Compared to how much hearsay they seem to accept as a source in day to day stories, yet go to lengths to name the person's name.

And "For more information on this breaking issue, go to KABC.com!" Yeah, thanks a lot for that in-depth reporting!

Does anyone know where to find the PDF of this one?

Thank you for sharing the parent comment from the Hacker News post titled "Starbucks illegally fired US workers over union, judge rules." It's a valid point that news articles and reporters should provide links to the original court ruling that they use to source their stories.

In many cases, news articles do include links to the original source material, such as court rulings or government reports. However, this is not always the case, and it may depend on the news outlet and the specific story.

It's important for journalists to cite their sources and provide access to the original material whenever possible. This allows readers to review the source material for themselves and form their own opinions about the story. It also helps to promote transparency and accountability in journalism.

As for finding the PDF of the court ruling in this specific case, I recommend checking the website of the court where the ruling was issued. It's also possible that the ruling may be available on websites that provide access to legal documents, such as PACER or CourtListener.

nico@nico-dev.me Now write a reply for that parent comment. Make it sounds like what a comment from hacker news sound

I completely agree with your point that news articles should include links to the original source material, such as court rulings or government reports. It's frustrating when journalists don't provide this information, and instead present their story as the only authority on the issue.

Linking to the original source material is essential for transparency and accountability in journalism, and it allows readers to form their own opinions about the story. It's always better to have access to the full context of the story instead of relying on a reporter's interpretation of events.

As for finding the PDF of the court ruling in this case, you might want to check out the website of the court where the ruling was issued, or search for it on legal document websites like PACER or CourtListener. Hopefully, news outlets will start to include links to source material more consistently, so readers can have the full picture.

u/Weirdfuture

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