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UpToTheSky commented on Microsoft Discussed Selling Bing to Apple as Google Replacement   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/brandrick
UpToTheSky · 2 years ago
Why does neither Microsoft nor Google nor Apple take the lead and offer free LLM answers like Google offers free search results?

Is that because there are simply not enough GPUs out there to do this at scale?

If so, it will become really interesting once that constraint goes away. There might be a shift in the search space like there was a shift from analog to digital photography.

UpToTheSky commented on CJEU declares Meta's GDPR approach illegal   noyb.eu/en/cjeu-declares-... · Posted by u/draugadrotten
UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
Just to make me understand this:

This is about storing data in the form of "Facebook user XYZ looked at a page about travel to Antarctica" and the reason Facebook wants to store such data is to show them travel offers when they read their Facebook feed?

If so, can I download this data about me? Is there a way to download everything Facebook stores about me and then I will see all the websites and pages I visited that Facebook knows about?

UpToTheSky commented on OpenAI temporarily disables the Browse with Bing beta feature   help.openai.com/en/articl... · Posted by u/gpayan
UpToTheSky · 3 years ago

    For example, if a user specifically asks for a
    URL's full text, it might inadvertently fulfill
    this request.
So this seems to imply two things:

1: Bing has access to text on websites which users don't. Probably because websites allow Bing to crawl their content but show a paywall to users?

2: The plugin has a different interface to Bing than what Bing offers via the web. Because on the web, you can't tell Bing to show the full text of the URL.

I have to contact my ISP. That's not the open web I subscribed to :) Until they fix it, I just keep reading HN. A website which works the way I like it.

UpToTheSky commented on Full Time   marginalia.nu/log/83_full... · Posted by u/kevincox
UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
Congrats!

Going full time is the only way to go for a project you love and want to grow.

What is the business model?

How much visitors does Marginalia have?

UpToTheSky commented on Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit    · Posted by u/cryoz
UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
There is a subreddit about Reddit alternatives:

https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/

UpToTheSky commented on Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices   old.reddit.com/r/LifeProT... · Posted by u/UpToTheSky
bobthepanda · 3 years ago
The issue is also that the right people need to come.

Generally speaking, the issue with new startup competitors for social networks is that the first people they attract a critical mass of are people who got banned from the other sites for spam or excessive toxicity, and once they’re there they spook potential new people. It’s the online version of the “Nazi bar” problem.

UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
That's why I suggested piggybacking on HN's karma points.
UpToTheSky commented on Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices   old.reddit.com/r/LifeProT... · Posted by u/UpToTheSky
tiedieconderoga · 3 years ago
Three big issues off the top of my head:

* Hosting costs. Reddit was very lucky to have imgur pick up a lot of its bandwidth in its early days, but free image/video hosting sites are cyclical: absent a benevolent billionaire, the costs will rise with popularity, and the site will eventually need a source of revenue, which will introduce friction and start its inevitable decline in popularity.

* Moderation. Always a highwire tightrope act. Most Reddit spin-offs of the past several years have been focused on minimizing moderation, which ends up attracting people who tend to get banned from other places before the site gets a chance to form its own identity and pick up steam.

* Network effects, which are basically a lottery. You can have a scalable service with great UI, and a solid moderation story, but you still need to get lucky and catch lightning in a bottle to take off. This is common knowledge, which makes it even harder to justify starting to develop or use a new social medium.

Personally, I like places like HN, which focus on good moderation without trying to scale up. We are blessed to have dang, but if the site were structured more like Reddit or a forum with different boards, I bet it would become unmanageable very quickly.

UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
Hosting costs: Let's start with text only.

Moderation: True, that's hard. But maybe piggybacking on HN's karma points could solve it?

Network effects: Do we really need many users to make something useful?

UpToTheSky commented on Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices   old.reddit.com/r/LifeProT... · Posted by u/UpToTheSky
pgwhalen · 3 years ago
There are many reddit clones. The value is completely in the communities and not in the technology.

r/all subs like r/pics are completely replaceable, but something like r/personalfinance is an institution that is not easy to replicate elsewhere.

UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
What are some of those Reddit clones?

Any of them decentralized, so there is no "one ruler" who can close down the thing in the future?

UpToTheSky commented on Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices   old.reddit.com/r/LifeProT... · Posted by u/UpToTheSky
blendergeek · 3 years ago
The hardest part is going to be the community itself. Reddit (the board and shareholders) are betting that the community is too large to migrate to a better alternative.
UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
Do we really need a big part of the community to have a good "forums for everything" site?

To me it seems, that 99% of Reddit is just "content fast food" and low quality comments.

If we would get just 1000 HN users to use an alternative, that could already be something.

UpToTheSky commented on Popular Subreddits are organizing a strike on 2023-06-12 b/c high API prices   old.reddit.com/r/LifeProT... · Posted by u/UpToTheSky
UpToTheSky · 3 years ago
What is the hard thing about building an open, user-friendly Reddit alternative?

Hosting the posts shouldn't be that hard. Storage is so cheap these days. Is it the legal aspects of handling user generated content?

Ranking the posts is another issue. Is that where the value of Reddit lies?

Maybe one could build some hybrid thing which capitalizes on existing structures? I could imagine a frontend which only shows posts by users who signed their posts via their Hacker News accounts. Aka they sign their post with a private key and publish the public key on their HN profile. This way, a new Reddit alternative could benefit from the karma distribution of the best community on the web today.

Hosting the content could maybe be done via one of the new decentralized systems like Mastodon, Nostr or Bluesky? Those inherently have open APIs, so it would be easy to build a frontend which aggregates the content into one simple UI.

u/UpToTheSky

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