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TreeRingCounter commented on Sesame allergen labeling law has unintended effect: sesame in more foods   fox9.com/news/new-us-food... · Posted by u/4ad
drewrv · 3 years ago
Why are you expecting the world now to exist as it was when you were a child?
TreeRingCounter · 3 years ago
This has nothing to do with expectations - it's an inquiry into why something is worse now, without a clear justification.

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TreeRingCounter commented on Sesame allergen labeling law has unintended effect: sesame in more foods   fox9.com/news/new-us-food... · Posted by u/4ad
LesZedCB · 3 years ago
the stick you want to take with where you tax money goes is an ADA protected disability?

I hope society doesn't feel the same way about your needs when they inevitably arise

edit: reduced the tone.

TreeRingCounter · 3 years ago
If your reaction is personal outrage at me rather than considering the issue at hand, you are probably too emotionally involved to form a useful opinion.
TreeRingCounter commented on Sesame allergen labeling law has unintended effect: sesame in more foods   fox9.com/news/new-us-food... · Posted by u/4ad
danaris · 3 years ago
Spoken like someone who neither knows anyone with disabilities, nor realizes that they, themselves will likely be disabled at some point in their lives, and will both want and need accommodation at that point.
TreeRingCounter · 3 years ago
You're making things up about me (all untrue, incidentally) so you can write off my argument as heartless or something instead of actually addressing it.
TreeRingCounter commented on Sesame allergen labeling law has unintended effect: sesame in more foods   fox9.com/news/new-us-food... · Posted by u/4ad
avianlyric · 3 years ago
I assume based on this comment that you would be happy to personally explain to parents of someone killed due to an allergic reaction, why their death was an acceptable trade-off for "social efficiency"? I assume that you would also be personally happy with inflicting an allergy based death, or serious injury, on those that you love?

One of the frustrating aspects of arguments like this, is that proponents of "social efficiency" aren't personally impacted their proposed policies. They're quite happy to push for policies that negatively impact others, but it seems unlikely they would pursue a utilitarian policy with such zeal if it personally impacted themselves, or those they love. The impacts of utilitarianism are for others to deal with, proponents almost universally only benefit from their policies.

TreeRingCounter · 3 years ago
Why would I want to talk to someone about an issue I couldn't possibly expect them to have a rational opinion on?

> One of the frustrating aspects of arguments like this

Is people insisting on making a society-scale issue into a personal, emotional issue?

> is that proponents of "social efficiency" aren't personally impacted their proposed policies

Oh. Well funny enough, I actually do have a couple serious dietary intolerances - but I don't insist on externalizing my costs onto others against their will.

It may be alien to you, but in fact I am perfectly capable of considering policy decisions that are bad for me but good for society. Some people can't do it, I guess.

TreeRingCounter commented on Sesame allergen labeling law has unintended effect: sesame in more foods   fox9.com/news/new-us-food... · Posted by u/4ad
LesZedCB · 3 years ago
I _promise_ you people with allergies know about this "tactic."

What all you who suggest it fail to empathize with is that it's the only option most of the time. being completely removed from the social scene of eating out is extremely alienating, and eating out is very common especially for young adults.

So you concede, you look up the menu online ahead of time, decide "hey this probably looks safe, I can risk it"

Boom, you accidentally eat something you didn't account for, try not to make a scene in front of your friends and the other patrons, go out to your car take Benadryl and pass out. Night over.

TreeRingCounter · 3 years ago
Very sad stuff, but nonetheless I have zero interest in subsidizing your social preferences (either through regulation or litigation costs). Lots of people live good lives without going to restaurants all the time. Have a barbecue or something.
TreeRingCounter commented on Sesame allergen labeling law has unintended effect: sesame in more foods   fox9.com/news/new-us-food... · Posted by u/4ad
fzeroracer · 3 years ago
Yes, and my schools were not throwing out sandwiches either. Schools started doing so because it became a serious liability issue with kids weaponizing it for bullying and leading to death. Unless you have a solution for the human condition that will stop people leveraging deadly allergies as a form of torment, then schools will keep doing so.
TreeRingCounter · 3 years ago
> Schools started doing so because it became a serious liability issue with kids weaponizing it for bullying and leading to death

This sounds completely absurd and hyperbolic, but let's say I took it at face value - why is this an issue now and not an issue when I was in school?

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