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TheresNoTime commented on Show HN: A site to send to people who whine about how unreliable Wikipedia is   readthecitations.com... · Posted by u/TheresNoTime
chrisma0 · 3 years ago
I really feel like the lack of well-structured citations is what's keeping many Wikipedia articles back. It's just not good enough to throw some paper reference (potentially behind a paywall) or a news article after a full paragraph of text.

Often when editing a page, I am left wondering where exactly the previous editor has gotten a fact from. The Wiki markup even allows "quotes", i.e. short extracts of what exactly you're referring to, but I've yet to see anyone beside myself actually use it consistently.

Having a structured list of references for a given topic in a Wikipedia article is incredibly helpful!

TheresNoTime · 3 years ago
Great points! In an ideal world, editors would note exactly where in the referenced work they found the information — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Ident... has some guidance on how to do that :)
TheresNoTime commented on Show HN: A site to send to people who whine about how unreliable Wikipedia is   readthecitations.com... · Posted by u/TheresNoTime
groffee · 3 years ago
Except it IS unreliable, even with citations. Wikipedia is straight up garbage.

Just one very recent example: https://www.engadget.com/chinese-wikipedia-editor-fake-russi...

TheresNoTime · 3 years ago
Maybe I need to add a section (in bold, flashing red text?) reiterating that you need to read the citations and not rely on the content?

This recent example is awful, yes, but relied heavily on a Wikipedia project which has less strict referencing rules, and was consumed by people who didn't take the time to fact-check — we're about on par with Encyclopedia Britannica (ref: https://www.nature.com/articles/438900a)

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TheresNoTime · 4 years ago
As always, excited to see what CF have been working on :)

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