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StandardFuture commented on Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine   gizmodo.com/canada-to-mak... · Posted by u/elorant
Barrin92 · 4 years ago
So everyone who holds any restrictive position on speech, incompatible with your own is uncivilized and philosophically unsophisticated, as in the rest of the world? Civilizations thousands of years old are... uncivilized?

See this is the supreme irony. You've turned freedom of speech into dogmatic faith. Ironically enough, no discourse is so dogmatic and blind and unable to question its own values as the American one. You can question everything, just not your own values on speech. It's all just platitudes about authoritarianism and slippery slopes and ironically enough unoriginal, replicated talking points.

StandardFuture · 4 years ago
> Ironically enough, no discourse is so dogmatic and blind and unable to question its own values than the American one.

This speech seems rather ... hateful. Shall we fine you? Officers! This man is screaming hateful speech in the public arena!

Or maybe you disagree with that being hate speech? In an uncivilized society, if I have the power then it doesn't really matter. You still get fined or worse.

> You can question everything, just not your own values on speech

No, you can still question that in a free society if you so choose. But you may not necessarily be able to in an unfree one.

> You've turned freedom of speech into dogmatic faith.

This is entirely disingenuous. Supporting a philosophical position is not without reason, as you well know, and is not automatically dogmatic.

> It's all just platitudes about authoritarianism and slippery slopes and ironically enough unoriginal, replicated talking points.

Perhaps, you can better explain your dogmatic devotion to your belief that freedom of speech is not an important tenant of modern civility and sophistication?

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StandardFuture commented on Canada to make online hate speech a crime punishable by fine   gizmodo.com/canada-to-mak... · Posted by u/elorant
version_five · 4 years ago
"Hate Speech" is a super political term, and I would argue probably should have special protection at this point. It's not much of a leap to see this used to enforce current political orthodoxy.

We already have laws about inciting to violence as I understand it, which is justifiable. This makes it an offence to "expresses detestation or vilification of a person or group on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination".

StandardFuture · 4 years ago
> used to enforce current political orthodoxy.

Which is a nice way of saying that this is the beginnings of a new authoritarian and totalitarian age.

It should be very worrying to everyone to see speech be legally punished in the West.

Slippery slopes do exist and this is one.

StandardFuture commented on Alan Turing's biggest fan remains the real enigma   westword.com/news/alan-tu... · Posted by u/Hooke
ryanbrunner · 4 years ago
The statement "the impact of X on Y is debated" is a different one than "X did not have an impact on Y". I agree that there's not enough to say definitively that Enigma definitely had a major impact, but that doesn't mean it absolutely didn't.
StandardFuture · 4 years ago
> I agree that there's not enough to say definitively that Enigma definitely had a major impact

The parent comment wrote:

> which is demonstrably false

which demonstrably proves my comment perfectly valid and correct.

Try again later.

StandardFuture commented on Alan Turing's biggest fan remains the real enigma   westword.com/news/alan-tu... · Posted by u/Hooke
cabalamat · 4 years ago
> 90% of the german military were destroyed by the Soviets in the eastern front

This is probably true of the Germany army, but not the air force, and certainly not the navy.

Furthermore, it does not demonstrate your point that "Bletchley Park ... had no material impact on the war", which is demonstrably false. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra for a list of some contributions; but it is surely obvious that reading the enemy's communications is going to be of great help in a war.

> Germany had no chance of winning.

True once they were fighting UK + USSR + USA; the odds against them were too great.

StandardFuture · 4 years ago
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra

Quote:

> The exact influence of Ultra on the course of the war is debated

So, you provided a link that proves your own comment incorrect ...

StandardFuture commented on Obvious and possible software innovations   scottlocklin.wordpress.co... · Posted by u/haltingproblem
coopsmoss · 4 years ago
I disagree, I think it's a perfectly reasonable to critique someone's writing, and by extension the author.

You can't be rude and justify it by saying "it's just my management style" or "it's just my personality".

StandardFuture · 4 years ago
> and by extension the author.

I love how idiots on HN are justifying blatant ad hominem attacks in their commentary as being perfectly valid.

WTF is HN becoming? Are people really getting this stupid?

StandardFuture commented on Obvious and possible software innovations   scottlocklin.wordpress.co... · Posted by u/haltingproblem
coopsmoss · 4 years ago
I disagree, I think it's a perfectly reasonable to critique someone's writing, and by extension the author.

You can't be rude and justify it by saying "it's just my management style" or "it's just my personality".

StandardFuture · 4 years ago
You did not actually prove how exactly launching criticisms of the writing style over the content is not cheap. You can hate and critique the writing style all you want, but focusing on that in your HN comments is in fact the very notion of cheap commentary.

So, would you like to try again? Are you intellectually capable of providing a proper retort?

StandardFuture commented on On Depression and Founders   startupstrats.substack.co... · Posted by u/jdbiggs
wayoutthere · 4 years ago
Did I just read Alex Jones?
StandardFuture · 4 years ago
Attempting to discuss the well-documented statistical declines of testosterone in men is always and completely "Alex Jones"?

You need to get out more.

StandardFuture commented on Obvious and possible software innovations   scottlocklin.wordpress.co... · Posted by u/haltingproblem
approxim8ion · 4 years ago
Author belongs to the special class of people who think sounding like a dick makes them more authoritative. All their posts are like that.
StandardFuture · 4 years ago
> class of people who think sounding like a dick makes them more authoritative

It's a writing style. Like it or hate it.

Nonetheless, criticisms of writing style are far too cheap and shallow for HN. Be better.

u/StandardFuture

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