Readit News logoReadit News
SapphireSun commented on The World Might Be Better Off Without College for Everyone   theatlantic.com/magazine/... · Posted by u/johnny313
jseliger · 8 years ago
We need a college education to be accessible to anyone who is qualified

You should read the article:

The labor market doesn’t pay you for the useless subjects you master; it pays you for the preexisting traits you signal by mastering them. This is not a fringe idea. Michael Spence, Kenneth Arrow, and Joseph Stiglitz—all Nobel laureates in economics—made seminal contributions to the theory of educational signaling. Every college student who does the least work required to get good grades silently endorses the theory. But signaling plays almost no role in public discourse or policy making. As a society, we continue to push ever larger numbers of students into ever higher levels of education. The main effect is not better jobs or greater skill levels, but a credentialist arms race.

If college is mostly about signaling, then it's an arms race, and the faster the herd, the more the individual most race in order to keep up.

Accessibility to higher education is important, but much more of that education should be vocational in nature. Right now we have a lot of access to college, but that access has led to ballooning problems with student loans, along with Girard-style mimetic crises ( https://jakeseliger.com/2017/06/27/violence-and-the-sacred-o... ).

SapphireSun · 8 years ago
If college is part of a signaling arms race, if we conceive of education purely as a labor market good, why are we asking the laborers to stand down from that race and not the employers?
SapphireSun commented on The Largest Number of Scientists in Modern U.S. Is Running for Office in 2018   huffingtonpost.com.mx/ent... · Posted by u/ericdanielski
SapphireSun · 8 years ago
Scientists are running because they feel their class interests are being threatened. Typically, scientists are apolitical because they feel they get more benefits by maintaining the status quo (e.g. military and civil funding). In the face of a bald attack on the EPA and climate science, scientists are attempting to show class solidarity.

Unfortunately, many of the problems we have are not technical problems, but are clashes between left and right. The favored positions of both sides have long been established. Science will help implement an ideological solution, but will not replace ideology. To the extent that the scientists running are leftists compared with centrist democrats, this will be somewhat significant.

However, I suspect that many established scientists are ignorant of politics and see the current struggle as some kind of surface level fact vs fiction debate. They will be disappointed.

SapphireSun commented on China, Unhampered by Rules, Races Ahead in Gene-Editing Trials   wsj.com/articles/china-un... · Posted by u/paulsutter
psychometry · 8 years ago
You misunderstand so many things.

1. There are many somatic applications of CRISPR that have no effect on the germline.

2. Even the germline applications don't necessarily "decrease genetic variability". Why would you think that?

3. Even considering off-target effects, the edits made to any particular genome are miniscule compared to its overall size, which I'm sure would astound you. There is no reason to believe these edits will make us less (or more) resistant to environmental exposures.

4. We are not talking making people more likely to contract cholera, which is easily controlled by sanitation. We're talking about preventing or curing debilitating illnesses that confer no benefit to the organism.

SapphireSun · 8 years ago
I agree with points 1-3, but I would be remiss not to mention, that with respect to point 4, diseases like sickle cell anemia, which is hideously painful and fatal as a double inheritance (25% homozygous offspring in a heterozygous pairing, ss), but a wonderful defense against malaria in heterozygous offspring (Ss, 50% of said pairing). The remaining 25% homozygous wild-type (SS) are healthy, except when encountering malaria.

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/biology/sickle_cell.html

I would think that a mendelian genetic disease like sickle cell might well be on our hit list for all the trouble it causes. Of course, it could be argued that mosquito nets and drugs (i.e. technology) are a better, less costly defense, than these inborn genetic mutations.

SapphireSun commented on Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes   reuters.com/article/us-ap... · Posted by u/chollida1
dang · 8 years ago
Would you please not use HN for ideological battle? At the point this stuff gets generic, it gets predictable, and therefore boring in HN's sense of the word.
SapphireSun · 8 years ago
My apologies dang. I try to at least be on topic, and this is what has been intensely interesting to me in the past year. Thanks for moderating.
SapphireSun commented on Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes   reuters.com/article/us-ap... · Posted by u/chollida1
jriot · 8 years ago
A headline that will never see the light of day.
SapphireSun · 8 years ago
Mainly because it's hard to suppress laughter if you think about it at all beyond a surface level. See discussion in another thread. I don't want to repeat myself.
SapphireSun commented on Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes   reuters.com/article/us-ap... · Posted by u/chollida1
rlanday · 8 years ago
Ah, this is exactly the same reason no corporation can stay in business! (Since consumers can just buy from the one that has the lowest prices)

For this reason, we should encourage corporations to form cartels to avoid getting taken advantage of by disloyal consumers.

SapphireSun · 8 years ago
Ok, last one. :) You've really just made a mockery of the ideology of competition haven't you? In fact, that is what corporations do. There's an awful lot of highly concentrated market power lying around for exactly that reason.

Deleted Comment

u/SapphireSun

KarmaCake day1965September 4, 2008View Original