Repulsion9513 (u/Repulsion9513)

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

renewiltord · a year ago

> After "she" said no, then Altman auditions a bunch of voice talent and picks someone who sounds just like SJ.

What does 'after' mean to you? Strange response.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

What does "picks" mean to you? Strange response.

Do you think they only got one person to do it or something?

If they weren't looking at multiple options then ... why did they still ask SJ?

Oh right because they asked SJ because they hadn't picked yet.

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

ein0p · a year ago

Self driving is actually coming along better than I thought it would. Version 12 behaves like a human driver.

The real source of your frustration though is that he does not fully subscribe to the neoliberal dogma and lets millions of others to say whatever they like. Totalitarian left can’t handle that, it’s a visceral reaction

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

> Self driving is actually coming along better than I thought it would. Version 12 behaves like a human driver.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Anyway that would be cool if it was true but doesn't change what a conman he is. He said he was gonna make it true how long ago? Yeah.

> The real source of your frustration though is that he does not fully subscribe to the neoliberal dogma and lets millions of others to say whatever they like. Totalitarian left can’t handle that, it’s a visceral reaction

That's not even remotely true. Seriously. No part of it.

- It's been obvious to me that he was a conman since he started lying at Tesla, a decade or more ago. 'Fraid to say that alone disproves your unfounded personal attack since he didn't own a social media platform at the time.

- He doesn't allow people to say whatever they like unless he agrees with them.

- He (ok, and perhaps you) is the only totalitarian in this conversation.

But hey good job trying to make this out to be about politics instead of about what a terrible human Musk is, I know that's the only way for you Repugnantcans to cope with the cognitive dissonance.

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

TeMPOraL · a year ago

> It's not aiming high when anyone competent and informed can tell him there's no way, and he pays many competent and informed people to tell him.

You know that this is exactly how SpaceX won big? There were many a competent, credentialed people telling Musk that reusable rockets are a pipe dream, all the way to the first Falcon 9 landing and reflight. Some of them even continued giving such "competent and informed" advice for many months afterwards.

> Setting a goal is not the same as telling people the company that you are dictator of is going to do something.

That's literally what it means, though.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

> You know that this is exactly how SpaceX won big? There were many a competent, credentialed people telling Musk that reusable rockets are a pipe dream, all the way to the first Falcon 9 landing and reflight. Some of them even continued giving such "competent and informed" advice for many months afterwards.

And there were also people saying it could be done. Where were those people for self-driving? (Oh right they were in the Facebook comment section with no relevant knowledge.)

> That's literally what it means, though.

No, it's not at all.

A goal is personal, or perhaps organizational. You need not announce something on Twitter in order to set a goal for yourself or for your company.

Repulsion9513 commented on Tmux is worse-is-better hiandrewquinn.github.io/t... · Posted by u/hiAndrewQuinn

ckolkey · a year ago

Not that KiTTY, this kitty: https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/

But it's also foss, so, you're still right.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

> Offloads rendering to the GPU for lower system load

My God, what have we done

Repulsion9513 commented on Tmux is worse-is-better hiandrewquinn.github.io/t... · Posted by u/hiAndrewQuinn

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

> > [Terminal m]ultiplexers add unnecessary overhead, suffer from a complexity cascade, because they actually have to translate escape codes, modifying them in hackish ways to get them to work with their concepts of windows/sessions. […]

So... like how a terminal emulator translates escape codes, modifying them in hackish ways to get them to work with X's/Wayland's/users' concepts of windows/sessions? :)

Obviously that's not an apples to apples comparison but really, while that may make it more complex and slightly buggier I don't see how that makes it bad.

> I find myself typing out “tmux” as the first command I run. Because it’s always going to be there, and it does the one thing I actually need it to no matter what: Let me run multiple shells at once, without SSHing in multiple times

I don't understand why people hate opening up another SSH session. If you're really worried about the 10 seconds it might take, you can easily configure it to take more like 1:

       -M      Places  the  ssh client into “master” mode for connection shar‐
               ing.  Multiple -M options places ssh  into  “master”  mode  but
               with confirmation required using ssh-askpass(1) before each op‐
               eration that changes the multiplexing state (e.g. opening a new
               session).    Refer  to  the  description  of  ControlMaster  in
               ssh_config(5) for details.

The only reason I ever use screen is for persistence, the multi-windows is just a secondary feature.

(Since when is tmux "always going to be there"?)

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

renewiltord · a year ago

It’s actually just a few comments away, and visible for me from the parent to your comment

> Well, from the start, Altman wanted SJ to do the voice. Perhaps he'd never seen or heard of the movie "her", and the association is just coincidental? After "she" said no, then Altman auditions a bunch of voice talent and picks someone who sounds just like SJ.

I suppose some might imagine asserting the opposite as a distinct concept from disputing but there you have it. You should be able to find a link quite easily.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

I don't see where that quote says "they contacted SJ before they hired the actor that did the voice" or anything similar. Perhaps you need to taste it a bit more before you try again.

"Whether or not Altman wanted SJ's voice" and "whether or not they got someone else to do SJ's voice before asking SJ to do it" are two completely independent matters.

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

kamaal · a year ago

Well not sure what you mean by 'Conman'. Wildly successful people do aim high a lot, a lot. They don't meet 80% of their goals, that is perfectly ok. Even as low as 20% success on a lot of these moonshot things sets you ahead of the masses who aim very low and get there 100% of the times.

This whole idea that some one has to comply to your idea of how one must set goals, and get there is something other people have no obligations to measure up to. Also that's the deal about his lies? He can say whatever he wants, and not get there. He is not exactly holding an oath to you or any one that he is at an error for not measuring up.

Musk might not get to Mars, he might end up mining asteroids or something. That is ok. That doesn't make him a conman.

tl;dr. Any one can say, work and fail at anything they want. And they don't owe anybody an explanation for a darn thing.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

It's not aiming high when anyone competent and informed can tell him there's no way, and he pays many competent and informed people to tell him.

He can set all the goals he wants. Setting a goal is not the same as telling people the company that you are dictator of is going to do something.

He's not setting goals, he is marketing, and he does it very well.

As far as how he's a conman https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40462194 although you already know that full well so you'll continue thinking he's some sort of hero.

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

TeMPOraL · a year ago

> What facts disprove OpenAI making a voice that sounds like SJ

The objective parts of this are disproved in several ways by the very article under which we're commenting. The subjective parts are... subjective, but arguably demonstrated as false in the very thread, through examples of SJ vs. Sky to listen side by side.

> such that the movie Her is referenced by Altman

You're creating a causal connection without a proof of one. We don't know why Altman referenced "Her", but I feel it's more likely because the product works in a way eerily similar to the movie's AI, not that because it sounds like it.

> and why is that actress upset?

Who knows? Celebrities sue individuals and companies all the time. Sometimes for a reason, sometimes to just generate drama (and capitalize on it).

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

> You're creating a causal connection without a proof of one. We don't know why Altman referenced "Her", but I feel it's more likely because the product works in a way eerily similar to the movie's AI, not that because it sounds like it.

There's no proof needed. A marketer doesn't market something for no reason.

We are all capable of interpreting his statement and forming an opinion about its intent. Indeed, the entire point of making any statement is for others to form an opinion about it. That doesn't make our opinion invalid - nor does the whining and backpedaling of the person who made the statement.

Your opinion may be different than others, but I doubt that would be the case if you were truly approaching this situation in an unbiased way.

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

bnralt · a year ago

Right. Even if you think OpenAI isn’t a good place, this is an investigation by an established newspaper that refuted some of the more serious accusations (that OpenAI got a Johannson impersonator - they didn’t, that they modified the voice to sound like Johansson - evidence suggests this didn’t happen). When the reaction is “I don’t care that an investigation refuted some of the accusations”, it demonstrates someone isn’t openly approaching things in good faith.

Likewise, if someone’s attitude is - “OK, maybe there’s no paper trail, but I’m sure this is what the people were thinking”, then you’ve made an accusation that simply can’t be refuted, no matter how much evidence gets presented.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

> When the reaction is “I don’t care that an investigation refuted some of the accusations”, it demonstrates someone isn’t openly approaching things in good faith.

When the reaction is "it doesn't matter, it's still not ok to copy someone's voice and then market it as being that person's voice or related to that person's voice" and your reaction is to cast that as being something else, it demonstrates you are not openly approaching things in good faith.

Repulsion9513 commented on OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/richardatlarge

TeMPOraL · a year ago

Yeah, but then again, I totally expected this opening the comment threads. Same happened with RMS debacle, same happened with similar events earlier, same happened on many a Musk stories. It seems that a neat narrative with clear person/object to hate, once established, is extremely resilient to facts that disprove it.

Repulsion9513 · a year ago

I'm not sure what RMS has to do with Altman. I'm also not sure why you think people just want to hate on Musk when it took a decade of his blatant lies for most people to catch on to the fact that he's a conman (remember, everyone loved him and Tesla for the first 5 or 10 years of lies). But the comparison between Musk and Altman is pretty apt, good job there.