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Ray20 commented on Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month   theverge.com/tech/875309/... · Posted by u/x01
ranger_danger · 3 days ago
> these systems will ALWAYS be under attack by those who want more power

I think this is an inherent human problem that prevents us from overcoming it... history has proven that the more equal everyone is, and the less individual ownership they have, the lazier and more bored they get.

Look at the previous attempts at socialism... people stop caring when there's no goal to work towards, they can't all be doing the same thing and just be happy, because humans are naturally competitive. We desire things other people don't have, like possessions, money, or power.

Ray20 · 3 days ago
> the lazier and more bored they get

People don't become "lazy". They're lazy from the beginning. Laziness is something they overcome for personal gain. And if the system promises fewer personal gains for overcoming laziness, then why bother?

Ray20 commented on Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month   theverge.com/tech/875309/... · Posted by u/x01
WillAdams · 3 days ago
My solution for this is to rate-limit political contributions --- they may only be made in an amount equal to what a minimum-wage worker might reasonably be expected to donate from a week's wages (say 10% of hourly min. wage * 40), as a physically written out check or money order physically signed by hand (at least an "X" mark) and mailed in a first-class envelope with at least a similarly signed cover letter explaining the reason for the donation.

If this causes the extinction of the political lobbyist, I'm fine with that.

Ray20 · 3 days ago
Private money in politics is one of the counterbalances to the emergence of a totalitarian state. The government gains a huge advantage over the opposition due to the fact that it is the government and receives free media coverage.
Ray20 commented on New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers   blog.adafruit.com/2026/02... · Posted by u/ptorrone
crote · 9 days ago
> Registration procedures should be more complex and strict, not simpler. If someone is irresponsible, disorganized, or illiterate enough to fail to fill the form on time, then why should we consider their vote meaningful?

The US tried to do this kind of "literacy test" before, remember? It's where the expression "grandfathered in" comes from: you had to do an impossible-to-pass test to gain the right to vote - except if your grandfather had the right to vote.

This was of course used to ban black people from voting without explicitly banning them for being black.

> Prisoners voting is madness

If prisoners can't vote, what's stopping the party in power from preventing them from ever losing an election by just jailing everyone expected to vote against them?

> People who live off taxpayers should not be able to decide how to spend their taxes

This should obviously includes everyone working for government contractors. Which is obviously going to include everyone working for any kind of tech company with any government contract. Which, considering HN demographics, means you likely shouldn't e allowed to vote.

Heck, why not extend this even further? Anyone living in a state which receives more money than it contributes in taxes should be banned from voting. Anyone using government resources should be banned from voting. Everyone driving their car on government-maintained roads should be banned from voting!

Ray20 · 9 days ago
> this kind of "literacy test"

Where did I mention a "literacy test"? I'm against such tests for exactly the same reasons I'm against prisoner voting.

> If prisoners can't vote, what's stopping the party in power from preventing them from ever losing an election by just jailing everyone expected to vote against them?

Prisons, by definition, are built on the principle that prisoners are under the full control of prison administrations. If everyone who will vote against could be imprisoned, there would be no problem allowing prisoners to vote: prisoners would still vote in the manner desired by the prison administration. That's how prisons work. And I don't think there's a need to increase incentives for authorities to imprison more people to achieve the desired election results through prisoners' voting.

> any kind of tech company with any government contract.

Obviously, this shouldn't apply to "any" government contracts. But if the majority of a contractor's income comes from government contracts, then yes, employees shouldn't vote.

> Anyone living in a state which receives more money than it contributes in taxes should be banned from voting. Anyone using government resources should be banned from voting.

I don't understand why you're trying to reduce this argument to absurdity. The goal is to preserve democracy by reducing the government's ability to build a totalitarian dictatorship through its ability to control taxes. And yet you're proposing measures that would proclaim such a dictatorship.

Ray20 commented on New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers   blog.adafruit.com/2026/02... · Posted by u/ptorrone
x______________ · 9 days ago
Living in a civilized society with other people should have its social responsibilities, amongst others.
Ray20 · 9 days ago
Yes, and most of this measures result in decisions being made by the most irresponsible people.

Prisoners voting is madness. They are in too dependent a position to believe that their vote will reflect their votes.

On the contrary, voting should be banned not only for prisoners but also for people working for the government in any capacity. People who live off taxpayers should not be able to decide how to spend their taxes.

Registration procedures should be more complex and strict, not simpler. If someone is irresponsible, disorganized, or illiterate enough to fail to fill the form on time, then why should we consider their vote meaningful? If someone believes they have more important things to do than vote, why force them to vote?

Ray20 commented on Tesla ending Models S and X production   cnbc.com/2026/01/28/tesla... · Posted by u/keyboardJones
ben_w · 15 days ago
> The more totalitarian a state is, the more out of touch with reality it can be in its statistics.

That's more of an American problem than an EU one at the moment.

We're not the ones shooting unarmed protesters in the head ten times after removing their legally owned gun, nor faking arrest photos, etc.

Even before that, our leaders have not* called for the death penalty to be used against politicians reminding troops of their existing obligations to not follow illegal orders.

Even before that, the US government shutdown at end of last year means some economic data was never collected at all.

Even before that, DOGE having Musk at the helm had obvious conflicts of interest with regards to e.g. ongoing investigations against Tesla.

* to my knowledge, but TBH wouldn't be surprised if Orban has, but also Hungary is to the EU as, IDK Wyoming perhaps, is to the USA.

Ray20 · 14 days ago
This is all terrible. But how does this change the fact that Europe has a more totalitarian government, committing more political assassinations and persecuting political opponents, while Europe is mired in poverty?

I mean, compare the median wages of factory workers in Europe and in the US and the amount of taxes they pay to support gangs of alien rapists.

Ray20 commented on Tesla ending Models S and X production   cnbc.com/2026/01/28/tesla... · Posted by u/keyboardJones
ben_w · 15 days ago
> Europeans weren't drowning in poverty

How come the US has a higher rate of struggling with groceries (12.2% US vs 8.5% EU), healthcare (44% US vs. 18.6% for costs) EU, education costs, etc.?

> they would also buy more expensive cars.

Price != quality. European cars have better safety standards, as well as being cheaper to own and run. American cars… the vibe I got from them on trips was the expectation for them to serve as an additional air-conditioned entertainment room that just happened to be on wheels, whereas the European ones are mostly a mode of transport unless you're specifically into luxury brands.

Ray20 · 15 days ago
> How come the US has a higher rate of struggling with groceries (12.2% US vs 8.5% EU), healthcare (44% US vs. 18.6% for costs) EU, education costs, etc.?

Reliability of statistical data. The more totalitarian a state is, the more out of touch with reality it can be in its statistics. If we look at the statistics provided by North Korea, they have zero on all the points mentioned. Europe isn't there yet, but it's moving at full speed. Their cars even safer and cheaper to own and run than European ones.

Ray20 commented on Tesla ending Models S and X production   cnbc.com/2026/01/28/tesla... · Posted by u/keyboardJones
tonyhart7 · 15 days ago
You acting like china isn't capitalism
Ray20 · 15 days ago
But that isn't capitalism. It's socialism, which uses many market mechanisms to manage the economy.
Ray20 commented on Tesla ending Models S and X production   cnbc.com/2026/01/28/tesla... · Posted by u/keyboardJones
ben_w · 15 days ago
If $50k is competitive for you, that should be a sign something's gone wrong.

In Europe we can get new cars for less than half that price, both for domestic production and also post-tariffs on Chinese imports.

Ray20 · 15 days ago
> If $50k is competitive for you, that should be a sign something's gone wrong.

Or, on the contrary, a sign that something went right. If Europeans weren't drowning in poverty, they would also buy more expensive cars.

Ray20 commented on Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal   iranintl.com/en/202601255... · Posted by u/mhb
direwolf20 · 17 days ago
Work–to–rule, then. This was actually included in the CIA sabotage manual.
Ray20 · 15 days ago
I even envy this level of privilege. How exactly work-to-rule will protect you from the same consequences?
Ray20 commented on Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal   iranintl.com/en/202601255... · Posted by u/mhb
thinking_cactus · 18 days ago
How about plain civil disobedience? Like just stop working? It would need to get pretty extreme before the government had the audacity (and even capacity) to actually track you down to your home and arrest (or kill) you. Although this kind of coordination might be difficult with government control of communication media.
Ray20 · 17 days ago
> How about plain civil disobedience? Like just stop working?

An amazing level of privilege. In half of the world, if you stop working, you will very soon die of hunger.

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