This refers to this paper: "Socioeconomic roots of academic faculty" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01425-4
Readit NewsPuppyTailWags commented on The Wealth Gap in Science: How Your Parents's Income Affects Your Career youtube.com/watch?v=lKmy7... · Posted by u/xqcgrek2
What do you want me to say here? The science is pretty much settled that we are omnivores, you can't just ditch meat without consequences. Yes there are substitutes, but in practice do vegans consistently eat these at the right amount to compensate for the lack of meat in their diet? Well my first hand experience tells me this is a big fat NO.
Let's put it another way, imagine some guy likes to pester you about your eating habits, says they are unhealthy, and that their diet is healthy. Well the burden of proof is on them and as someone who cares about staying fit, if the guy trying to convince me either looks like skin & bones, or is overweight, then they are already on shakey ground. This has been my first hand experience multiple times.
Ultimately my ancedote is not meant to be a counter-argument, but instead a reminder to those reading to touch grass. Because why wouldn't your personal experiences matter more than the anecdotes and misinformation spread by strangers online? (This applies to my own anecdote as well)
I'm just saying that "well everyone I met who is vegan looks sick" is shoddy reasoning to proclaim eating meat is the healthy behavior. That's it. I already clearly said I have no opinion on veganism itself, nor am I pestering you with a claim that any one diet is healthy.
> My fantasy solution is everyone needs to go get a meat consumption license by going to a farm and killing an animal with a knife in their hands every, say, 10 years.
I have heard this repeated from so many vegans / animal activists at this point, including my own sister. Where did you get it from? Who is the original author? I am seriously asking.
An argument involving only my individual health (I am into fitness stuff) plus effect on the environment - repeated enough times - would sway me.
To be completely honest: I do not appreciate being told that I am an immoral human being for X (X = eating meat).
Been told that too many times already during my lifetime. It is a cultural constant. That formula is just too tiresome to hear yet again at this point.
I think it's important, as people who eat meat, to fully acknowledge the deep and societal harms that meat causes. It is well-studied that slaughterhouses are uniquely bad for a community and uniquely bad for the people who work there. Meat as a food can sometimes be bad for people, but meat as an industry is definitely bad for people. Knowing this can allow us to make more responsible choices even if we still end up eating meat, such as selecting for small, ethical farmers that also limit the trauma of themselves/those who do the slaughtering of their stock.
Overuse of antibiotics in livestock is certainly a problem, but this is also true for many of the pesticides we use for plant farming and our lack of standardized irrigation water testing (in the US) which has lead to issues like the recent E. Coli outbreak in lettuce. In general modern farming of all kinds has issues that need to be addressed, I don't see any exclusivity in the meat category.
I will continue eating meat, I believe it is *good* for both individual health and collective health. In fact the amount of vegans I've met in life who didn't look like they were suffering from some illness has been very rare, only solidifying my position on this.
I'm comfortable with meat prices going up if it resolves the antibiotics issue, but I'm unconvinced by the moral arguments you disguise as health arguments.
> In fact the amount of vegans I've met in life who didn't look like they were suffering from some illness has been very rare, only solidifying my position on this.
I would push against this sort of anecdotal view. The circle of people we eat with (and therefore know the dietary restrictions of) tend to be quite low compared to all the people we meet with on a day to day. Additionally, "looking sick" is a vague enough assessment that simply knowing someone is a vegan may very easily cause you to be much more critical of their appearance, and vice versa you may see someone who looks sick to you and then pay more attention to their dietary habits than you ordinarily would. Another thing to note is that all dietary restriction lifestyles is subject to a noticeably higher rate of disordered eating or intestinal issue that leads to the person participating in the dietary change and therefore it may be important to first determine if the disordered eating or gut issue caused veganism vs the other way around.
That is to say: even though I am neutral towards veganism itself, your logic as to why meat is good reads to me as quite flawed and poorly reasoned around.
PuppyTailWags commented on The Effects of Noise on Health (2022) hms.harvard.edu/magazine/... · Posted by u/averageValentin
They lived an average of how long? Enough to have kids at age 18-20, and help their kids raise their own for 2-5 years when they reached that same age. Evolution didn't equip us to live much longer than that.
> Enough to have kids at age 18-20, and help their kids raise their own for 2-5 years when they reached that same age. Evolution didn't equip us to live much longer than that.
Huh? Humans can live upwards of 3 generations worth of humans. It's not uncommon for humans to remain functional enough to raise their grandchildren!
PuppyTailWags commented on The Effects of Noise on Health (2022) hms.harvard.edu/magazine/... · Posted by u/averageValentin
I'm always curious: what is the effect of noise on the noise producers? As much as I have a disdain for leafblowers, and as much as I absolutely despise people who play bass-heavy music at night, why don't they suffer the same ill effects and heart issues as the people they subject noise to?
An important but gentle pushback against things like this (tracking how much time you "have left"): if stuff like this isn't helping you, it isn't worth the reminder either. For some people the scarcity mindset is a motivating factor, for others it's a paralyzing one and for the latter I would encourage to consider this sort of conversation utterly meaningless and therefore wholly dismissable, not even worth the time in clicks.
I'm not an employee or a boomer, but I do take exception with this zero-sum view. Productivity creates more opportunities. These people are not taking away a slice of the pie from young people. Instead they are creating a larger pie for everyone.
This is assuming that more opportunities are being created in certain roles... Unfortunately there aren't being more house representatives, senators, etc. Professorships are increasingly rare. While you can argue that, roundaboutly, boomer executives and boomer equity owners (e.g. partners in law offices) can invest in more companies that will create new executive rooms and new partnership positions, the reality is we are actually seeing more and more corporate mergers which means less positions for upwards mobility.
I feel like your questions are blaming the victim here. The temptation is real and not everyone has the greatest friends. LSD is actually dangerous.
Sorry, I don't mean to blame the author of the blog post. If anything I'd like to know why their friends didn't step in for them, nor that they never came across the potential long-term consequences in even a casual research step prior to taking LSD. I'm wondering if the hallucinogen community isn't upfront enough about not taking hallucinogens under certain circumstances and that's something we can glean from this anecdote.
I've noticed this pattern where "anecdote" is deployed when someone disagrees with some point another person is making. But would you be chiming in here about "anecdotes" if this was a post by someone claiming acid helped them?
Yes; I think someone claiming a drug helped them is also a useful anecdote. I do think HN as a community tends to weigh positive anecdotes more than negative ones [when it comes to hallucinogens], and wanted to point out that this particular negative anecdote suggests there exists at least some amount of greater or more systemic concerns about how such an experience came about to begin with.