Readit NewsPoomba commented on Show HN: Daily install trends of AI coding extensions in VS Code bloomberry.com/coding-too... · Posted by u/AznHisoka
It would be great if u could overlay a HN sentiment chart over all of these tools.
Poomba commented on LinkedIn sues software company allegedly scraping data from profiles therecord.media/linkedin-... · Posted by u/thm
Because they either have side deals with the big names, or they want to set precedent for going after them.
Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here, but my bet is on having a deal with the big players, we allow you to scrape us (or we give you a pipe you can consume out of), and you pay us in monetary or non-monetary terms; like how many business exchanges work
I doubt they have side deals. They took action on some of them by removing their company page, but that is like a slap in the hand.
If you want to make a big deal about this, tell us you at least sent a letter to the big players too. Otherwise, dont put up such a huge show
Poomba commented on LinkedIn sues software company allegedly scraping data from profiles therecord.media/linkedin-... · Posted by u/thm
A bunch of GTM and Sales APIs recently stopped offering their LinkedIn APis. Seems like the lawsuits are working to scare them off.
Prediction: this will be a very much pay to play market
Examples?
Poomba commented on LinkedIn sues software company allegedly scraping data from profiles therecord.media/linkedin-... · Posted by u/thm
Why are they going after the small fish?
If they really want to put a dent into this, go after the biggest players scraping LinkedIn: PeopleDataLabs and Apollo.io (and no, taking down their company page does not count)
Poomba commented on All the sad young terminally online men derekthompson.org/p/all-t... · Posted by u/gamechangr
Creators on YouTube do it for monetization. There are now multiple generations of youths for which “influencer” is their desired career. If you make it, you make it big.
They might pull in more money with sponsorships but they only got there because the algorithm put them at the top where the money is.
Don’t believe me? Look up the woman who shot up google HQ when they demonetized her channel.
I know someone who got addicted to the influencer money in Tiktok and dropped out of a med school program because making 5 figures a month, taking videos of you wearing fancy clothes was way better than slogging thru med school
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Poomba commented on Launch HN: Webhound (YC S23) – Research agent that builds datasets from the web · Posted by u/mfkhalil
Oh, I totally see your point.
We’re optimising for large enterprises and government customers that we serve, not consumers.
Even the most motivated people, such as OSINT or KYC analysts, can only skim through tens, maybe hundreds of web pages. Our tool goes through 10,000+ pages per minute.
An LLM that has to open each web page to process the context isn’t much better than a human.
A perfect web search experience for LLM would be to get just the answer, aka the valid tokens that can be fully loaded into context with citations.
Many enterprises should leverage AI workflows, not AI agents.
Nice to have // must have. Existing AI implementations are failing because it’s hard to rely on results; therefore, they’re used for nice-to-haves.
Most business departments know precisely what real-world events can impact their operations. Therefore, search is unnecessary; businesses would love to get notifications.
The best search is no search at all. We’re building monitors – a solution that transforms your catchALL query into a real-time updating feed.
So your customers just want to use this for their own internal data, not external data from the web. Is that correct?
I feel like there are a lot of tools in this space, but they're all flawed, or they all defeat the purpose of Clay - which is having easy access to a lot of integrations with external data providers, and then falling back to their AI agent if you can't find a data provider. You're probably not going to save money by spending more time stitching together multiple tools, instead of doing everything at once in Clay.
That said, I did compiled some alternatives in my blog awhile ago if you're interested. (Just search for "Bloomberry Clay alternatives"). If you're OK with some limitations like less CRM integrations (ie. some only support Hubspot), or less data providers (some use less contact data providers in their waterfall enrichment), then there definitely are some cheaper ones you can try.
Is there a particular thing you can live without?
Ppl keep recommending me tools like apollo and zoominfo but they way too powerful for me. I dont care about how many data providers they have because i just care about those 2 thinfs