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MiiMe19 commented on Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy   jacobin.com/2025/11/peter... · Posted by u/robtherobber
micromacrofoot · 12 days ago
what part of the communist ethos implies death and destruction? really it seems more baked in to capitalism and democracy is the more important piece rather than the economic system... a socialist system can be democratic too
MiiMe19 · 12 days ago
Communism requires an authoritarian government. Authoritarian governments bring death and destruction. Therefore, any communist society will inevitably have death and destruction.
MiiMe19 commented on Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy   jacobin.com/2025/11/peter... · Posted by u/robtherobber
hearsathought · 13 days ago
> Capitalism did not kill the natives, the colonial governments and other European governments did

Then neither did communism. The governments did.

> And even then, the "system" in place at the time was mercantilism, not capitalism.

Sure. Just like the soviet union, china, north korea, etc are not true communists. Idiots on both sides always make the same excuses.

> Once again, growing up under communism implies with 99% certainty that you do not want communism.

If that were the case, a certain percentage of the world wouldn't have had to spent trillions to undermine and overthrow communism.

> It is an implication, not a bi-implication.

Morons on both sides love to throw around logic terms they don't understand to buttress their shitty argument. That and silly statistics. 99% certainty. Good one.

MiiMe19 · 13 days ago
Well capitalism does not always mean bad, but communism does. Therefore, one is objectively worse than the other.
MiiMe19 commented on Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy   jacobin.com/2025/11/peter... · Posted by u/robtherobber
micromacrofoot · 14 days ago
capitalism is great just don't ask the natives about it
MiiMe19 · 14 days ago
Communism always implies death and destruction, capitalism does not. I am not saying that capitalism and its associated governments always result in perfect or even good outcomes, but that communism always results in bad ones. And either way, the natives were wiped out by governments under mercantilism, not capitalism.
MiiMe19 commented on Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy   jacobin.com/2025/11/peter... · Posted by u/robtherobber
hearsathought · 15 days ago
> Communism and its associated pairings have killed far more than capitalism ever will.

Ever will? The "capitalists" have already killed far more. Did communists wipe out a continent full of native americans? Did communists killed more people than the Nazi germany, the US, british empire, chinese empire, japanese, etc in ww2? Did communists kill more people during both the vietnam wars?

> Communism only ever exists when paired with an authoritarian government and cannot exist without one. Capitalism can (and does) exist without an authoritarian government.

Fine, that's an actual argument that can be discussed. But why lie outright about reality. But pretty sure the natives would have loved to live under their own authoritarian government rather than being wiped out by the capitalist paradise.

> There is a reason why the only people that defend communism have never lived under it.

Must be why you are so good at lying. Because you grew up under communism?

MiiMe19 · 14 days ago
Capitalism did not kill the natives, the colonial governments and other European governments did. Communism implies evil/bad/death, but capitalism does not. And even then, the "system" in place at the time was mercantilism, not capitalism. For your last argument, you do not need to be Gordon Ramsay to know when something tastes bad. Once again, growing up under communism implies with 99% certainty that you do not want communism. It is an implication, not a bi-implication.
MiiMe19 commented on Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy   jacobin.com/2025/11/peter... · Posted by u/robtherobber
hearsathought · 15 days ago
Not sure why people keep bringing this up. Every ideology has blood on their hands, but communism is nowhere near #1. Try comparing the death tolls/genocides/etc of the capitalist/anti-communist side with the communist side.
MiiMe19 · 15 days ago
Communism and its associated pairings have killed far more than capitalism ever will. Communism only ever exists when paired with an authoritarian government and cannot exist without one. Capitalism can (and does) exist without an authoritarian government. There is a reason why the only people that defend communism have never lived under it.
MiiMe19 commented on Peter Thiel's Apocalyptic Worldview Is a Dangerous Fantasy   jacobin.com/2025/11/peter... · Posted by u/robtherobber
micromacrofoot · 15 days ago
The core belief in communism is "collective ownership for the common good" which feels like a far cry from "the literal antichrist is coming."

I could follow an argument that Jacobin is naive, but it seems silly to make the direct comparison to someone who thinks we're approaching some predictable end of days and say they're the same.

MiiMe19 · 15 days ago
100M+ dead ideology
MiiMe19 commented on How a French judge was digitally cut off by the USA   heise.de/en/news/How-a-Fr... · Posted by u/i-con
TimorousBestie · a month ago
> They're still there last time I checked. Hiroshima has a population of ~1m. Nagasaki closer to 300k.

This is an argument by equivocation. There’s still a “World Trade Center” in NYC but it’s not the one that fell in 2001. Nor does saying it’s so restore the dead to life.

> An invasion of Japan would have cost an order of magnitude more lives. It was the 4th year of an extremely bitter conflict that Japan started. There were no real good options on the table. Only "shit" and "extremely shit".

This is a legal defense strategy that was never heard before an international tribunal because, notably, one was never held.

I don’t have the energy to skim through the Nuremberg transcripts right now, but I also believe “it was the best of bad options” was a legal defense attempted there, with mixed results.

EDIT: I’m being rate limited, so I can’t answer any more questions today. But suffice it to say that in Truman’s place I would have extended the relative protection that Kyoto received to every large Japanese city and contained the air force to bombing primarily military and industrial targets, with the understanding that precision bombing was not as advanced in 1940s as it is today.

Here is a more in depth analysis of options other than nuclear bombardment (though it only discusses nukes, which is not the primary locus of my criticism). https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2015/08/03/were-there-altern...

Also I did not say they were “erased from the map,” that was a different commenter.

MiiMe19 · a month ago
I mean, you are the one arguing that they were erased from the map when clearly they were not. And either way, to say that millions of Americans should have died to invade a country that sided with the Nazis and killed bajillions of Chinese and Koreans unjustly is simply incorrect.
MiiMe19 commented on Netherlands returns control of Nexperia to Chinese owner   bloomberg.com/news/articl... · Posted by u/boovic
MangoToupe · a month ago
> It was because he was directing funds to a Chinese company which did not make any business sense and leaking all kinds of intellectual property to China.

Oh no, not the free market! Is this a leopard eating our face?

I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords, and let IP be consigned to ash.

MiiMe19 · a month ago
The free market should be used to benefit $my_country and should be ignored if it hurts my interests. If the free market is hurting my country, then why play by those rules when I can just use my other resources to get what I want?
MiiMe19 commented on An official atlas of North Korea   cartographerstale.com/p/a... · Posted by u/speckx
MiiMe19 · a month ago
I wish there was a CD rip of the encyclopedia available so I could comb through the rest.
MiiMe19 commented on Meta and TikTok are obstructing researchers' access to data, EU commission rules   science.org/content/artic... · Posted by u/anigbrowl
sva_ · 2 months ago
I'm not really sure what the argument is for letting these researchers make users of these platforms non-consenting participants in their studies? Is it even possible to opt out?
MiiMe19 · 2 months ago
Nope :D The EU has determined that you WILL be a part of these studies!

u/MiiMe19

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