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Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
toast0 · 6 months ago
Assuming the rides are comparable, the article has a table which includes price/km (weird) of Lyft: $7.99, Uber: $8.36, and Waymo: $11.22. On that data, Waymo is roughly 40% higher, so way more than just a tip.
Jelthi · 6 months ago
Assuming you didn’t upgrade to a different tier or pay for priority to get your uber faster or a nicer ride.

Uber also can increase the cost of the ride on you with unexpected routes or time. Yes you can complain, but I am sure plenty don’t even notice.

The math isn’t wrong, but it’s not so black and white.

I’m in the camp though of “I would pay double not to deal with a human”

Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
cvsv · 6 months ago
The Waymo cars are really comfortable luxury Jaguars. For Uber and Lyft there are many price tiers, but to reliably get an equally or more comfortable car you probably need to book the black car options. I’m sure Uber / Lyft are way more expensive per mile than Waymo on that tier.

In addition to all the things people have pointed out that makes it a better experience.

Jelthi · 6 months ago
Almost every Uber Black and Black SUV I’ve ordered was a Chevy Suburban or GMC Yukon.

The quality is across the board, but one thing I’ve found consistent is the terrible quality seats. The seats feel like it’s just cardboard supporting you that pops in and out as you move with the car.

It’s rare to get an actual luxury car even when paying more.

Their promise of “professional” drivers is also wild. Sometimes you get a guy who’s friendly and seems eager to please and helpful with luggage, but I’ve had plenty of downright rude drivers who feel inconvenienced by my presence.

Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
Analemma_ · 6 months ago
The “consistently clean” part won’t last, that’s just because they’re new. In 2010 “they’re consistently clean” was an advantage of Ubers over yellow cabs, which of course is gone now. But I agree with the rest of this.
Jelthi · 6 months ago
My only experience with a dirty Waymo was smell. I reported it in app and got a message they recalled it to be cleaned.

I think the fact they can just take a car out of rotation and to the hub which probably has dedicated cleaning staff is a big reason it will last.

Your average uber driver is desperate to work. I’ve seen a driver open his trunk and clean up urine from a drunk female passenger he just dropped off in front of me and then just carry on with our ride like it was no big deal.

Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
milesskorpen · 6 months ago
The tip piece is interesting - that'd close a big chunk of the price gap, if people are tipping 10-20%
Jelthi · 6 months ago
I do. Sometimes almost 50%. I also do dumb things like order an Uber Black because I wanted a nicer ride or an XL because I don’t want to be shoved in the back of a model 3 even with just 2 people.
Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
Jelthi · 6 months ago
I pay more:

- To support cool technology

- To ride in a high end car of known quality

- To listen to my music and at any volume

- To not feel weird about the little things like talking or rolling down my windows or setting an AC Temperature

- To know exactly when and where my driver will pick me up down to the exact curb.

- To not have to make small talk with a person. Even when requesting quiet preferred you’ll get an uber driver who wants to share their life story or trauma dump on you.

- To not die. I’ve been in some terrifying Ubers with either bad drivers or just exhausted ones.

Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
Pingk · 6 months ago
The article doesn't mention if tips are included in their calculation (I suspect not).

Are Uber/Lyft still cheaper after a 10-15% tip?

Jelthi · 6 months ago
My thoughts exactly. I usually tip well - too well if I’m drinking and that’s usually when I’m taking an Uber.
Jelthi commented on Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway   techcrunch.com/2025/06/12... · Posted by u/achristmascarl
daft_pink · 6 months ago
The photo in the pictures is a brand new Jaguar. Just sayin’

I was under the impression they use Chrysler minvans, but I’d pay more to ride in a late model Jaguar than some random Hyundai.

Jelthi · 6 months ago
Every Waymo I’ve ridden in is a Jaguar I-PACE. I’m at 31 rides LA/SF.
Jelthi commented on Lucid lets shoppers customize cars like a video game character   techcrunch.com/2020/09/09... · Posted by u/jacquesm
reitzensteinm · 5 years ago
Oh wow, Genesis is very similar, and much better done. You're totally right that this isn't special.

I think the Lucid environment and models are much higher detail, but that's probably the reason why Genesis runs in the browser and Lucid is streamed as video. And the streaming makes the experience awful.

My guess for what happened is the team built a demo for fancy VR sales kiosks that run a 2080 Ti, and porting it to the web was an afterthought.

Given that the CEO is also the CTO, and the page is an important part of the sales process, I'd go as far as to consider it a minor red flag.

They should put underglow options behind the Kanomi code :)

Jelthi · 5 years ago
Agreed on the streaming issue. Especially noticeable on a phone. Genesis vs Lucid is night and day. Lucid is a big lag fest.

You know if someone actually used the Konami code on a car builder for an easter egg like that it'd totally sway my purchasing decision even if it was just for fun.

Jelthi commented on Lucid lets shoppers customize cars like a video game character   techcrunch.com/2020/09/09... · Posted by u/jacquesm
reitzensteinm · 5 years ago
I don't know, I make games for a living and I'd probably describe it that way. I got major NFSU vibes from it.

I haven't seen any 3D configuration tools for cars, but I haven't been looking either. What other brands do it like this?

Which isn't to defend the site. I went in to it wanting to be excited by it, but found the experience to be poor.

Jelthi · 5 years ago
I think my favorite is by Genesis. There are a few others with 3D models. The only point I was making is LUCID isn't the first to do it and so it's not nearly as special as the article made it out to be.

Give me an option to put graphics, underglow, and a sweet body kit on my next car then I'll agree it's like a NFS game :)

Jelthi commented on Lucid lets shoppers customize cars like a video game character   techcrunch.com/2020/09/09... · Posted by u/jacquesm
Jelthi · 5 years ago
Reading this article makes my head hurt. Has this techcrunch writer never been to a car website before or played an RPG? There is nothing special about the LUCID car builder. If you say something like "like a video game character" I'd expect something nuts like being able to adjust body panels or the height or specific colors for specific areas. You know, like how you can in video games.

u/Jelthi

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