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Igor_TN commented on What is really happening in Ukraine   slideshare.net/NazarBarto... · Posted by u/DeusExMachina
steven2012 · 12 years ago
I heard that there are a lot of nukes in Ukraine and the last thing the world wants is those split off into separate hands. I would harbor a guess that the US would rather have those nukes in the hands of Russia, who is a known evil but rational, vs someone else entirely new.

I read on Stratfor that Russia does not want Ukraine to become independent because it's basically the "soft underbelly" leading into Russia. It's basically the equivalent of letting Texas become independent. With Putin in control, there's no way he's letting Ukraine go free, especially given all the nukes, its strategic location, etc.

Igor_TN · 12 years ago
All nukes went from Ukraine to Russia (same in other former Soviet republics) after the Soviet Union broke apart. It all was regulated by proper treaties. You should not listen to rumors.

Regarding your next statement, Russia is not interfering in what is happening in Ukraine AT ALL. As opposed to EU and US who send their emissaries to Ukraine very often. The only "interference" from Russia is giving to Ukraine a huge credit and pushing down the gas prices which I guess is more help than interference. Also, this is not about Putin or anybody else. Most of Ukraine is culturally and historically extremely close to Russia. They are pretty much the same people. This may not be true regarding a couple of the most Western regions of the country. Those guys, I believe, have their full right on "independence" but that effectively would mean the split of the country which is the hardest thing to do.

Please be careful with selectively picked information. It's not constructive and not helpful.

Igor_TN commented on What is really happening in Ukraine   slideshare.net/NazarBarto... · Posted by u/DeusExMachina
Igor_TN · 12 years ago
I also grew up in central Ukraine and have my close relatives there. As much as I despise the current government, I must say that this "beautifully done" presentation is completely one-sided, unbalanced, and manipulates with both real and made-up facts. And, this is always non-constructive and even dangerous. The situation is much more complicated. I am really afraid that this is going closer and closer towards a civil war and split of the country. Presentations like this one only work in favor of that.

u/Igor_TN

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