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Grimblewald commented on Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition   github.com/microsoft/vsco... · Posted by u/napolux
jtbayly · a day ago
That’s not what free market means.
Grimblewald · 11 hours ago
Tell my economics textbook not me. Free markets are defined, in part, by the absence of coercive impediments to economic activity, which explicitley includes restrictions on entry.

see "low barriers for entry"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market

Grimblewald commented on Experts Have World Models. LLMs Have Word Models   latent.space/p/adversaria... · Posted by u/aaronng91
docjay · 2 days ago
I think you may believe what I said was controversial or nuanced enough to be worthy of a comprehensive rebuttal, but really it’s just an obvious statement when you stop to think about it.

Your code is fully capable of the output I want, assuming that’s one of “heads” or “tails”, so yes that’s a succinct example of what I said. As I said, knowing the required input might not be easy, but we KNOW it’s possible to do exactly what I want and we KNOW that it’s entirely dependent on me putting the right input into it, then it’s just a flat out silly thing to say “I’m not getting the output I want, but it could do it if I use the right input, thusly input has nothing to do with it.” What? If I wanted all heads I’d need to figure out “hamburgers” would do it, but that’s the ‘input problem’ - not “input is irrelevant.”

Grimblewald · 2 days ago
This reads like "if we have to solution, then we have the solution". If I can model the system required to condition inputs such that outouts are deseriable, haven't i given the model the world model it required? More to the point, isn't this just what the article argues? Scaling the model cannot solve this issue.

it's like saying a pencil is a portraint drawring device, like it isn't thr artist who makes it a portrait drawring device, wheras in the hands of a peot a peom generating machine.

Grimblewald commented on Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition   github.com/microsoft/vsco... · Posted by u/napolux
jtbayly · 2 days ago
What if there is actual competition, though? That’s the hope I keep having. If there is a cheaper, better model, I can switch.
Grimblewald · 2 days ago
For that to work it requires a free market, llms in their current format are a neccesarily closed market. It's like mobile phones. You'll get a sleek somewhat passable product increasingly dated and dysfunctional which every year serves you less and someone else more. Given I can't decide smart phones in their current form are shit, i'll make something better (without enromous capital) meams we're failing open market conditions. Do you see the point i am trying to make?
Grimblewald commented on CCC (Claude's C Compiler) on Compiler Explorer   godbolt.org/z/asjc13sa6... · Posted by u/LiamPowell
zamadatix · 3 days ago
I'd really recommend not. It's 75% one guy running AI agents talking like it's his project, 24% shitposting about AI, and 1% anything else.

You'll get a much better view about what it does and doesn't do by spending same amount of time looking at it yourself and maybe trying to take that back to the comments here where there is a decent chance at least a massively larger portion of the comments aren't bots or memes.

Grimblewald · 3 days ago
Despite your objection to looking, I did. What you're saying doesn't seem to check out. For example, hellow world not compiling seems like a significant issue and at first glance seems genuine even if there is some anti ai banter in the thread.
Grimblewald commented on Billing can be bypassed using a combo of subagents with an agent definition   github.com/microsoft/vsco... · Posted by u/napolux
bazodedo · 3 days ago
The "premium request" billing model where you pay per invocation and not for usage is very obviously not a sustainable approach and creates skewed incentives (e.g. for microsoft to degrade response quality), especially with the shift towards longer running agentic sessions as opposed to simple oneshot chat questions, which the system was presumably designed for. Its just a very obvious fundamental incompatibility and the system is in increasing need of replacement. Usage linked (pay per token) is probably the way to go, as is industry standard.
Grimblewald · 3 days ago
Paying per token also encouragages reduced quality only now you pay. If they can subtbtly degrade quality or even probability of 1shot solutions, they get you paying for more tokens. Under current economic models and incentive structures, enshitification is inevitable, since we're optimizing for it long term.
Grimblewald commented on Waymo exec admits remote operators in Philippines help guide US robotaxis   eletric-vehicles.com/waym... · Posted by u/anigbrowl
TheDong · 5 days ago
You've imagined a scenario around remote drivers having access to the internal microphones.

Waymo tells you explicitly that all the microphones inside the car are off unless you press the button to call rider support yourself.

If you'd ever ridden in waymo, perhaps you'd recall them telling you that the first time you rode one.

> if you can't think of more perhaps you should keep your comments out of the discussion, because at present you've contributed nothing but ignorance.

You really shouldn't end your comment with that if you're not going to read up on whether a hypothetical scenario you've imagined up is ignorant or not.

Grimblewald · 5 days ago
have you read terms and conditions? They can access video under near any circumstance, like wanting to check the general cleanliness of the car etc. audio is a bit different, or so they say, but when it comes to companies like this can we really trust what they say? They have an awful habit of lying an awful lot when it comes to data and privacy. Tesla for example recently got in trouble for not really doing as they should regarding sensors, if you recall. Waymo is several leagues above tesla in terms of general professionalism, however, I don't know if they professional enough to not do things they shouldn't, or under-employ folks in charge of implementing barriers to abuse etc.
Grimblewald commented on Waymo exec admits remote operators in Philippines help guide US robotaxis   eletric-vehicles.com/waym... · Posted by u/anigbrowl
whatever1 · 5 days ago
Is Waymo software licensed by a dmv ?
Grimblewald · 5 days ago
Yes. Something you should intuit, and is eaisly confirmed with a quick search. It is licensed to drive and the conditions underwhich it may do so are clearly stipulated. If it didnt require a license elon would have his deathtraps littering roadsides with mangled flesh and steel everywhere. Perhaps ask yourself why you asked such a misguided question and consider what you can do different in your cognitive patternd to avoid it in the future.

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Grimblewald commented on Claude Opus 4.6   anthropic.com/news/claude... · Posted by u/HellsMaddy
ribosometronome · 6 days ago
Couldn't you just ask the LLM which 50 (or 49) spells appear in the first four Harry Potter books without the data for comparison?
Grimblewald · 6 days ago
might not work well, but by navigating to a very harry potter dominant part of latent space by preconditioning on the books you make it more likely to get good results. An example would be taking a base model and prompting "what follows is the book 'X'" it may or may not regurgitate the book correctly. Give it a chunk of the first chapter and let it regurgitate from there and you tend to get fairly faithful recovery, especially for things on gutenberg.

So it might be there, by predcondiditioning latent space to the area of harry potter world, you make it so much more probable that the full spell list is regurgitated from online resources that were also read, while asking naive might get it sometimes, and sometimes not.

the books act like a hypnotic trigger, and may not represent a generalized skill. Hence why replacing with random words would help clarify. if you still get the origional spells, regurgitation confirmed, if it finds the spells, it could be doing what we think. An even better test would be to replace all spell references AND jumble chapters around. This way it cant even "know" where to "look" for the spell names from training.

Grimblewald commented on Todd C. Miller – Sudo maintainer for over 30 years   millert.dev/... · Posted by u/wodniok
snvzz · 9 days ago
And then "If he wanted money, he should have charged for his software" would apply to that someone.
Grimblewald · 8 days ago
And in such a system, before long, we have an ecosystem that resembles the venereal disease masequaraing as an addon store we see in wordpress.

u/Grimblewald

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