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Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
m101 · a year ago
Energy return in investment is <10x for solar, but more like 100x for nuclear. We have an energy budget to solver climate change. This is nothing to do with how much things cost.
Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
That was not my point. A solar panel is co2 neutral after 3 years and wind in a year.

And if we could build nuclear properly in a reasonable fast way around the globe, i would be for investing it heavily anyway i'm just not controling it in anyway and the only thing actually working is solar, wind and battery.

Low risk, broad spectrum investment (private, small companies, big, basically everyone can)

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Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
nine_k · a year ago
It is expensive, almost $100 per kWh stored, plus construction costs that involve fireproofing and spacing things because lithium batteries are flammable. And a lithium battery loses capacity with every recharge, so it needs replacement every few years.

We need batteries that cost, say, $10 / kWh, are not (as) flammable, not toxic (not Pb, not NiCd), and don't degrade too fast.

With that, they can be large, heavy, have low specific charge, require high or low temperatures (within reason), etc. For a large utility-grade installation all these qualities are not hugely important. There is plenty of space under solar panels and around wind turbines anyway.

Before that, selling methane remains a very good business indeed.

Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
Batteries in controlled env do not need to be replaced every few years.
Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
nine_k · a year ago
Wind and especially solar are also serious. But their applications are different; they can offset the load when the sun shines, or the wind blows, but can't provide a stable source.

If you need baseload, and need it carbon-free, your only option currently is nuclear. It's terribly encumbered, but apparently it's still less of an impasse that large-scale electricity storage currently is.

Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
Its not that simple.

First of no one is saying its just wind and solar. You say wind, solar and energy storage (batteries).

And second, if more people would buy EVs, we would already have A LOT MORE storage available. My EV has 100kWh and could heat a whole modern build house for 2 full days in winter.

Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
m101 · a year ago
Solar and wind emit a lot of CO2 upfront relative to the energy they produce down the line.
Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
Its not a lot. Pls don't repeat this. Wind and solar turnaround is very fast...
Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
abfan1127 · a year ago
why would you want to share your EV battery capacity with the grid? I don't understand this. Range is entirely dictated by your EV capacity and you're going to "rent" back the capacity (and battery cycles) for night time hours? I don't understand how this would work at scale.
Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
Because a battery will become a lot cheaper and replacing it sooner will still have huge benefits for you financially.

I have a 100kWh battery and can drive with this 3 weeks around without charging at all.

Why would i not want to leverage this?

And results from storage systems show that you can charge and discarge car batteries a lot more often without real degeneration when you do this a lot more stable than when driving.

Also it reduces the overall straine to the power grid. If you fill your cars battery with local solar, you are transporting less energy across the whole grid. If you discharge it locally, again less overall energy which needs to be transfered across the whole grid.

How this would work at scale? easy: in my city for example there is one local power company and they offer a charging solution for my EV. They have a few powerplants locally here too. They have everything they need.

Also overall solar energy prediction for the next day is very good. You can easily save a lot of money by leveraging this up front.

Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
datadeft · a year ago
Isn’t solar energy a SPOF? It goes to zero MW roughly every 12 hours at any given location on Earth where most people live due to the availability of the Sun’s light.
Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
IF solar would be the only thing people do, yes.

Thats just not the case.

Solar is used together with wind and storage.

And there are very little energy systems which rwould relia only on solar. More north you go, there is often water.

Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
cryptonector · a year ago
To be fair, and as a non-fan of wind (kills birds, annoys animals and humans) and solar (lowers the albedo of the planet, denies sunlight to parts of the local ecosystem), wind and solar do not have this cooling requirement. So that's nice. But anyways, you can always use sea water if you have access to the sea, or rely on a geographically-very-large grid for the diversity of sources that GP says we need.
Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
Good studies showed that wind doesn't kill birds.

solar on roofs doesn't take anything from local ecosystem. Solar above car parks neither.

Solar on a home is such a simple, affordable and save solution, why are you 'non-fan'? which indicates you hate it? How much are you against it? So much that you prefer burning coal over it?

Ghaenergyyy commented on Amazon buys stake in nuclear energy developer in push to power data centres   ft.com/content/00776191-b... · Posted by u/JumpCrisscross
numpad0 · a year ago
Primary coolant loop runs at arbitrary temperature, there's never going to be a point that a nuke can't be cooled. It's only matter of designed capacity.
Ghaenergyyy · a year ago
So a coolant loop can run at 100.000 degree? How?

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