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Gerard0 commented on Ask HN: What did you find out or explore today?    · Posted by u/blahaj
dang · 2 months ago
Now that's fascinating. I wonder how many practicing psychoanalysts we have on HN - you may be a singleton!

I could write a dozen replies but here's one:

Not knowing of Khan makes sense because he was not only expelled out of British psychoanalysis but mostly erased from its history. From the mid-50s till the mid-70s, though, he was the rock star and enfant terrible of that scene, itself filled with charismatic characters. The story is cinematic, and in the end tragic as he engineered his own destruction.

The biographer, Linda Hopkins, spent years putting the pieces together. She had the fortune of good timing: many of the key players were still alive, but in their twilight years and ready to spill the beans. She earned their trust—the good way, by being trustworthy—and ended up with troves of information, not just about Khan but others in that world, such as Winnicott, for whom Khan had been a substitute son and close editor if not co-author.

Before reading it, I recommend first the essay that Wynne Godley published about Khan in the London Review of Books, a brilliant piece which managed to shock the community as late as 2001, decades after the events he wrote about. The letters following the article are worth reading as well. (Godley's piece is at https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v23/n04/wynne-godley/saving-.... This follow-up profile is also worth reading and includes a hilarious anecdote about Khan and Lacan: https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/robert-s-boynton-retur....)

Hopkins's biography is marvelous in that she includes Khan's dark side but shows him as larger than it. The NYT review began with "If I were a snob, a liar, a drunk, a philanderer, an anti-Semite, a violent bully, a poseur and a menace to the vulnerable, I would want Linda Hopkins to write my biography." How's that for a review? The publisher put it on the second edition :)

Langs is an entirely different character but ended up almost as isolated as Khan did. His core insights about unconscious perception and unconscious communication, if true, are enough to change how analysis and therapy should be done. But he communicated them so oppositionally that the field eventually spat him out. That's my sense of it at least. Langs lacked the charisma to inspire much of a following, though he was a gifted if fire-breathing supervisor. His vision of analysis and therapy is so austere that I imagine no one, including Langs, could actually practice it—yet his core claims are so compelling that I don't see how they can be ignored either. He seems to have been dropped because his challenge was too uncomfortable.

Lacan is one I have never been able to understand or relate to. Do you want to suggest an entrypoint?

Gerard0 · 2 months ago
I am sold! I will definitely get Hopkins’ book. It sounds amazing. I read about his life on Wikipedia: What a life story and unfortunate end. Thank a ton for the elaborated reply and the recommendation.

About Langs: It is really unbelievable how many thinkers/ideas have been buried because they were uncomfortable or because someone with power or authority basically just erased/canceled them. This haunts me a bit nowadays and I try to stay alert.

For example, I still agree with many of the ideas, practices or theories of my first years among lacanians and psychoanalysis in general. But there’s also many things which I see totally different now. Not only because I kept learning, reading and so on: many ideas were just being smashed or repeated. Some authors were just banned with some obscure mention or some story and that was it.

Since a couple of years I have been reading mainly Spanish texts or translated into Spanish from French. Perhaps Darian Leader is the only exception. Great British psychoanalyst! I really like his books. He does have an introduction to Lacan (comic hah). I know Bruce Fink is quite popular and I have heard and read bits and pieces which have been good. But I haven’t read one of his books and if I am not mistaken he has an introductory book.

Around 2021 I joined an online seminar with an Argentinian guy: Bruno Bonoris. His ideas really, really helped me. He published a book on 2022 and I found it very clarifying. It is not an introduction to lacanianism but it goes through many of Lacan’s ideas. Some are praised, some are criticized, some are clarified (mainly regarding to how other lacanian schools use this or that concept). It also does this with many of Freud’s ideas and some post-Freudians. Not author by author but regarding some concepts.

I was struggling with some ideas and his book, together with his Seminar, really changed everything for me. It helped me put some things together, connect some ideas and it put words on things I had the feeling were a bit off or weird (but had learned (and repeated?) from my first analyst for example or first seminars).

The book is called “Qué hace un psicoanalista? Sobre los problemas técnicos”. Do you happen to read Spanish? Even if you don’t, I translated with AI from chapters into German in order to share them with my girlfriend and I was surprised with the results (haha sorry, it was my first time translating something so long and about psychoanalysis). Maybe you could try this or does the idea give you the chills?

It might be a quite weird recommendation but it might also be a good one depending on where your interests lie.

I am not sure if other fields are the same, but I have found this one hard to navigate! Reminds me of the words of a lacanian analyst at the beginning of a IPA conference he was invited to: “There are only two things all psychoanalytic schools agree on: 1. That Freud is the founder of psychoanalysis. 2. That if the analysand doesn’t show up to his session, the person will have to pay for it anyway.”

And yes, as you know, psychoanalysis is not really popular on here! But tell me, how come you are so involved? Is this a new interest, an old interest now being taken upon again or…?

Gerard0 commented on Ask HN: What did you find out or explore today?    · Posted by u/blahaj
dang · 2 months ago
I'm currently reading a lot of Robert Langs, who was a big deal in the 70s but now seems largely forgotten.

Besides that, Winnicott, Bion (not that I understand him), some Thomas Ogden, a whole lot of Harold Searles, a bit of Bollas, Linda Hopkins's incredible biography of Masud Khan, other stuff I'm forgetting right now.

Where do your interests lie?

Gerard0 · 2 months ago
I never heard of Robert Langs nor Masud Khan before, thanks!

Let me appropriate something I heard Jean Allouch (fantastic guy, died some 2 years ago) say:

"What interests me is madness and the way of welcoming it, which is called psychoanalysis."

I used to say I practice lacanian psychoanalysis, but more and more (thanks to exchange with colleagues, seminars and so on) I have been trying to expand my knowledge.

Just like you discovered, there are so many great ideas and authors which were simply forgotten. It's a tough path to walk!

Gerard0 commented on Podcasting Could Use a Good Asteroid   joanwestenberg.com/podcas... · Posted by u/zdw
bastawhiz · 2 months ago
I run a small podcast startup. I've been doing it ten years.

Podcasting is drying up because the money left. Everyone went all in on podcasts on 2020. Spotify bet the farm on podcasts. Money poured in. Marketing bros realized there's only so many mattresses and underwear you can sell through the format and left.

You really can't serve personalized ads through podcasts. The relevance of what you advertise can be about the topic of the show (that is, marketing to the type of people who would listen) or the location of the listener. Pretty much every other signal gives you nothing interesting you'd be about to decide "yeah they're a potential good customer". Spray and pray.

The money left. People realized they couldn't justify the time and money they pour into podcasting. It turns out, even if you weren't expecting to make money, you really hoped people would listen. Not enough, because podcasts faded and people discovered TikTok. No more waiting for your favorite show to drop: everything is your favorite show. If you get bored just scroll up.

Lots of folks are still making it work. But a lot more people are going into podcasting with a more deliberate approach. People are doing it because they think it's important, not because they think people will listen or because they want to get rich. I'd argue that some of the best podcasts ever made have come out in the past 2-3 years, but if you're not giving the median listener the thrill of the first season of Serial, they don't listen past the first episode or two.

Gerard0 · 2 months ago
What is your startup?
Gerard0 commented on Ask HN: What did you find out or explore today?    · Posted by u/blahaj
dang · 2 months ago
I've been exploring the origins of the 'relational turn' in psychoanalysis that began after WWII and ramped up in the 1970s. Psychoanalysis got vastly more interesting after Freud and I had no idea!
Gerard0 · 2 months ago
Nice! What are you reading?
Gerard0 commented on Ask HN: What did you find out or explore today?    · Posted by u/blahaj
pankajhbk007 · 2 months ago
I found 2 super cool blogs today, and spent most of my time digging into it

For understanding how internet works https://how-did-i-get-here.net/

How a computer runs our code (or anything in genral) https://cpu.land/

Also spent some time on reading about E2EE encryption because of some blog on HN I think :)

Gerard0 · 2 months ago
Thank you for this. Wish I have had this 25 years ago!
Gerard0 commented on Kagi releases alpha version of Orion for Linux   help.kagi.com/orion/misc/... · Posted by u/HelloUsername
johnmaguire · 2 months ago
As a Kagi user for years now, I am very interested in a Firefox/Chrome competitor but I will absolutely not use Orion until it is open source.
Gerard0 · 2 months ago
This. Super happy with Kagi but won't use until it is open source.
Gerard0 commented on Vietnam bans unskippable ads   saigoneer.com/vietnam-new... · Posted by u/hoherd
haritha-j · 2 months ago
I wonder if there's a middle ground, where you only have statement based, textual ads. Amusing ourselves to Death (great book btw), discusses how until the 19th century, ads were basically just information dense textual statements. The invention of slogans and jingles was the start of the slow downfall in ads.

I interned at an ad agency once, and I really enjoy creative advertising, but frankly there's just way too much advertising in this world.

Gerard0 · 2 months ago
Damn! I have been reading about Amusing Ourselves to Death on here since weeks and I assumed it was a new book from a contemporary author! I'll get it now, thanks for being the one who finally got me to :)
Gerard0 commented on We invited a man into our home at Christmas and he stayed with us for 45 years   bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c... · Posted by u/rajeshrajappan
wewewedxfgdf · 2 months ago
In England the advice is that the best thing you can do for homeless people is refer them to the correct social services, which has the resources and skills to deal with people who are often mentally damaged or unwell in some way.

The case of Aaron Barley triggered this after a lovely and caring family took in a homeless boy into their own home leading to a terrible situation in which he murdered two of the family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4elLA4FpnHQ

There's no way I'd let random people into my home - you absolutely do not know what might happen, what their history is, their mental state, their criminal background. Be kind in other ways.

Gerard0 · 2 months ago
And Michele and Rob Reiner were murdered by their own son and my uncle while going shopping. You don't have to do anything, but this kind of comment puts a huge stigma on homeless people and others.
Gerard0 commented on Ask HN: How would you set up a child’s first Linux computer?    · Posted by u/evolve2k
fullstop · 4 months ago
I totally agree about expertise in a given domain. With that being said, I would consider navigating a directory tree below the level of swaying to the beat.

I'm not expecting them to get into the nitty gritty about page alignment and DMA transfers. A directory tree is more on level with toe tapping.

Gerard0 · 4 months ago
Hee hee, great response to a great response!
Gerard0 commented on Why I'm teaching kids to hack computers   hacktivate.app/why-teach-... · Posted by u/twostraws
vhantz · 4 months ago
The supposed target of this game do not at all match who can actually play it. Kids don't have Macs. Those who want to hack don't have iPhones. I would even say that a kid with an iPhone will never get the necessary curiosity about computers to want to hack anything.
Gerard0 · 4 months ago
I am no hacker, but for me it was exactly this which made me go What?!

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