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Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
kranner · 7 years ago
You seem to be looking at the economic payoff alone, whereas others are talking about the intrinsic payoff, i.e., that it is worthwhile to help refugees even if it's a net economic loss.
Fuxy · 7 years ago
No I'm looking at the big picture and given the amount of refugees allowed in it is a major loss economically and culturally in the short term and quite likely in the long term as well.

The US did immigration right before only allowing in people when there was a need for workers and only allow predominantly cultures that would attempt to integrate and get along with the existing population.

The current policy allows unregulated areas (no go zones) to exist where the refugees make the laws; police are afraid to go in and they are not required to integrate into society plus their cultural and religious beliefs create a propensity for hostility against the locals/infidels.

Honestly it's a powder keg waiting to explode and given the rise of terrorist attacks in Europe it's getting there at a short and steady pace. It will take generations before their views will be moderate enough for them to be able to get along with the local population and the higher the amount of people and the longer they are kept in their echo chamber the longer it will take.

In the mean time we will see a rise in draconian Sharia law type laws since they will represent a considerable amount of the voting population just like in the UK. See Lauren Southern held under terrorism act for social experiment [1]

Mind you the UK allowed the change to be gradual and their local Muslim population is quite moderate over all yet this is still happening.

[1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJt7oZSONiU)

Anybody see the irony of a weak white canadian girl held under a terrorism act for distributing a bunch of fliers with some text on it?

Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
kranner · 7 years ago
Humanitarianism or other altruism doesn’t have to pay off at all. That is not a measure by which to evaluate it.
Fuxy · 7 years ago
You're right it doesn't but everyone seems to assume it will which is quite baffling.
Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
Daishiman · 7 years ago
Tourism is a low value-added industry with little to provide beyond low quality service jobs. I mean, it's clear considering that Italy is one of the most visited countries in the world and yet things aren't so hot there.

On the other hand, why do you falsely assume that acceptance of refugees has to have no limits or conditions? I'm saying that you can achieve a level of practical balance for two different areas on unrelated motives.

Fuxy · 7 years ago
Tourism is a low value-added industry or not it's not something they can afford to loose at the moment. It's not like all the citizens of Italy are highly skilled workers that would be working a better paying job if they lost their current low paying one.

Because it doesn't have a limit or conditions the overwhelming majority of assumed refugees are illegal immigrants brought over on the boats of NGO's. They haven't used the proper channels and haven't been checked what so ever in many cases it's not even possible to know their country of origin forget about anything else.

If they have completed the proper procedures and done all the paperwork for seeking asylum fair enough but that's not what's happening now they just show up.

Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
Daishiman · 7 years ago
So... it's not all about money. You can refuse to accept money from sources which are really not all that cracked up (because the margins in tourism are not great actually) and accept people for humanitarian reasons.

If you're not 14 or completely driven by greed you can understand the reasoning behind this.

Fuxy · 7 years ago
Being a humanitarian is admirable but at the end of the day it's a luxury that may or may not pay off in the long run.

Just the same way you don't give your money to a beggar on the street when you can barely afford to survives yourself the employment of personal boundaries is important for humans and countries.

So given that Italy is not doing so well at the moment I kind of have to question their thinking reducing their revenue stream in favour if immigrants.

The assumption that all immigration is good immigration is not true.

Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
knieveltech · 7 years ago
What is good for the economy (short term) and what is good for people (long term) are frequently not the same things.
Fuxy · 7 years ago
As far as I'm aware tourism is not a short term thing there will always be tourists coming and leaving this is an constant revenue steam in its own right.

So I don't get what you mean.

Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
platz · 7 years ago
> Having spent decades trying to attract tourists

This is what they designed for.

Fuxy · 7 years ago
They really just need to search for ways to manage the crowds instead alienating them to be honest.

Tourist bring a lot of money to local businesses you really shouldn't be killing the goose who lays the golden eggs if you ask me.

Fuxy commented on The backlash against overtourism   economist.com/node/217529... · Posted by u/bushido
Fuxy · 7 years ago
I found the quote “tourists go home, refugees welcome” quite funny.

So what their basically saying is they would rather kick out tourists that bring in and spend quite a lot of money effectively boosting the economy in favour of some refugees the government will have to spend a large amount of money on... and you wonder why the contry's economy is in such a bad shape when the citizens advocate shooting themselves in the foot.

Fuxy commented on It's not okay to pretend your software is open source   drewdevault.com/2018/10/3... · Posted by u/Bl4ckb0ne
Fuxy · 7 years ago
I don't understand why everyone is so against his point as far as I'm aware even wikipedia says under "Open source license"[1] that "Licenses which only permit non-commercial redistribution or modification of the source code for personal use only are generally not considered as open-source licenses."

So his point is valid you can't advertise your product as open source if it's not and you shouldn't be allowed to trick the community into thinking it is.

Companies can use whatever license they like it's their right but advertising it as open source when it isn't just to take advantage of the now large community of open source contributors is not acceptable.

Using “Apache+Commons Clause” is just one way used to trick people into believing it's open source when it's not; you may not be using it like that but do you honestly think a company with a team of lawyers didn't do this intentionally so they can take advantage of the open source community?

[1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_license)

Fuxy commented on Adblock filter rule list modified politically in Finland   github.com/uBlockOrigin/u... · Posted by u/Maakuth
wlll · 7 years ago
It seems you've been triggered. Perhaps as a vocal minority pushing an agenda, apparently all the time ("since forever"), who has taken offence at someone elses free speech you should just use the block button that you have.
Fuxy · 7 years ago
You don't see me throwing piss in people’s faces or crashing and trying to ban talks in universities just because they express views and opinions that contradict mine do you?

I don't need to block anyone with contradicting opinion because I'm open to changing my mind if someone comes out with solid research data and facts to prove their view.

But nice try ;)

There's a fine line between expressing one's views and trying to silence others you seem to have problems seeing the difference.

I didn't think being against censorship is such a controversial stance here on HN my how we have fallen...

Fuxy commented on First analysis of ‘pre-registered’ studies shows sharp rise in null findings   nature.com/articles/d4158... · Posted by u/danso
Fuxy · 7 years ago
Not to mention even a study that didn't pan out still has a lot of data that may be used for something else in the future.

Even a failed creation has parts that can be re used in other projects after all.

u/Fuxy

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