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BrazzVuvuzela commented on Facebook says it was wrong to ban Canadian MP’s Christmas message   reclaimthenet.org/faceboo... · Posted by u/smsm42
dahfizz · 4 years ago
To be pedantic, Facebook definitely does have the capability of censorship:

> Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive," happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups. Censorship by the government is unconstitutional.[1]

Facebook has enough power over communication at large to effectively suppress speech should they choose. Censorship does not have to be perpetrated by governments. Hence the terms self-censorship and corporate-censorship[2].

What people really mean when they talk about censorship is first amendment rights. Here, you are correct. The first amendment protects against government censorship only - nothing Facebook does could infringe your first amendment rights.

[1] https://www.aclu.org/other/what-censorship

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_censorship

BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
> What people really mean when they talk about censorship is first amendment rights.

I don't agree. The snarky and smug "nuh uh, cuz it wasn't the government" responses [often maliciously] assume that complaints about censorship are talking about the first amendment, but I think people are generally aware that censorship can come from corporations too and their concerns are not limited to apparent violations of the first amendment specifically but are concerned with the more general principle of free speech (which predates the first amendment.)

BrazzVuvuzela commented on How to automatically close those annoying “Launch Meeting” tabs from Zoom   zapier.com/blog/automatic... · Posted by u/mooreds
eli · 4 years ago
is HN spyware?
BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
I'd never trust it with any data I care about. HN doesn't even let you delete your account with post history.
BrazzVuvuzela commented on How to automatically close those annoying “Launch Meeting” tabs from Zoom   zapier.com/blog/automatic... · Posted by u/mooreds
eli · 4 years ago
No, unless you consider ever SaaS spyware.
BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
So yes.
BrazzVuvuzela commented on Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement   reuters.com/technology/in... · Posted by u/city17
hnfong · 4 years ago
BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
Another word for basically the same thing, yes. Excommunication is top-down directed shunning.
BrazzVuvuzela commented on Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement   reuters.com/technology/in... · Posted by u/city17
ngc248 · 4 years ago
Is it slave labour, I mean are they being forced to do it and not being paid for it, then sure boycott it.

If NOT, and if it is an avenue for prisoners to earn money, benefits, then don't boycott it

BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
> I mean are they being forced to do it and not being paid for it

Slavery is forced labor, which is orthogonal to being paid. If you are forced to work but are also paid (perhaps rare, but not unheard of), you are still a slave regardless of the pay. If you aren't being paid but aren't being forced to work, you aren't a slave (that's called volunteering.)

BrazzVuvuzela commented on Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement   reuters.com/technology/in... · Posted by u/city17
xwolfi · 4 years ago
If we can't employ Xinjian people anymore, what do you propose we do with them ?
BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
"Do with them"? That's a truly chilling way to speak of people.
BrazzVuvuzela commented on Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement   reuters.com/technology/in... · Posted by u/city17
cnlevy · 4 years ago
cancel culture doesn't originate in China. It's an evolution of the western idea of equality and individualism taken to an extreme
BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
Cancel culture isn't that either. Cancel culture is a rebranding of 'shunning', which I bet predates humans as we know them. I bet our social monkey predecessors had such tactics figured out.

Read this and tell me it isn't 'cancel culture': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning#Overview

Bonus: 'shadow-banning' is stealth shunning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunning#Stealth_shunning

BrazzVuvuzela commented on The secret Uganda deal that has brought NSO to the brink of collapse   arstechnica.com/informati... · Posted by u/dwynings
bestouff · 4 years ago
So hacking phones for the US governement is ok, but hacking phones for Uganda is not ?
BrazzVuvuzela · 4 years ago
You're only feigning surprise.. right?

u/BrazzVuvuzela

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