Blendtherules (u/Blendtherules)

Blendtherules commented on The Problem with Speed Cubing [video] youtube.com/watch?v=YWnp3... · Posted by u/Blendtherules

Blendtherules · 4 years ago

Video creator here. Response on this forum has been so productive and interesting, thanks for all the replies and the great discussion, will be doing a follow up video addressing many things that have been discussed here.

Any ideas where else I could promote this video? This site was suggested to me by a friend and it was perfect. Thank you again.

Blendtherules commented on The Problem with Speed Cubing [video] youtube.com/watch?v=YWnp3... · Posted by u/Blendtherules

nsilvestri · 4 years ago

The WCA already does have multiple events for different puzzles and styles of solving, such as 7x7 cubes and solving a 3x3 with the fewest moves. All but the biggest competitions choose from a subset of those 17 events to include because there's too much demand. There's no technical reason why no-inspection can't be an event, too. No-inspection was an event for 6 months over 15 years ago, but I can't find any information on why it was removed. That being said, it's still possible for a event organizer to have an unofficial event as part of the WCA sanctioned competition. I've recently been seeing Face Turning Octahedron appear as unofficial competition events.

Blendtherules · 4 years ago

Wow I had no idea about the no inspection event, was it with the WCA?

Blendtherules commented on The Problem with Speed Cubing [video] youtube.com/watch?v=YWnp3... · Posted by u/Blendtherules

nsilvestri · 4 years ago

I'm a speedcuber. Inspection time makes for a more interesting competition because it raises the skill ceiling. The top solvers can plan out a dozen moves in advance, find solutions that are more efficient, or skip steps entirely. Removing inspection time means there's no reason to practice this skill. Furthermore, removing inspection time hurts some solving methods more than others. ZZ requires edge orientation, which involves scanning all 12 edge pieces and classifying them as good or bad. Not being able to do this in inspection time would mean it cuts into the solve time, making the entire method unviable. Inspection time adds more diversity and complexity to the hobby.

Also, the video references feet solving. It was removed as an event at the start of 2020. Furthermore, they talk about Red Bull events as if they're another competitor to WCA events. Red Bull events are primarily designed to be broadcast to an audience. WCA events are designed so that everyone from young children to the elderly can compete. These two offbase points by the video creator make me think they aren't actually an active member of the speed solving community, just a random pedantic passerby.

For what it's worth, I think a no-inspection event would be an interesting addition to the competition, but the WCA probably doesn't like it because it would not be substantially distinguished from normal 3x3. I'll look into seeing if there are any discussions anywhere.

Edit: 3x3 No Inspection actually was an official WCA event from January 2006 to July 2006. Not sure why it was removed, though.

Blendtherules · 4 years ago

Good points about inspection time making it more interesting, I think a lot of people agree with you, and I find it very interesting personally. The RedBull thing was shown to me by a speedcuber who just wanted to point out that there are no inspection events out there, even though they aren't aimed solely at the speed cubing community.

Here's my issue. The statement "the world record for solving a rubiks cube is 3.47 seconds" is false. It took him longer than 3.47 seconds, we just don't count the extra time because of the rules of the game (which is a great game by the way).

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spadros · 4 years ago

But to imply that the inspection time doesn’t affect the solve time at all seems totally disingenuous. I agree with the thesis of the video. “Time to solve a cube” should mean exactly that; how long, from first seeing the cube in front of you, it takes you to solve it.

Blendtherules · 4 years ago

I don't think I implied that the inspection time doesn't affect the solve time, but I'm learning a lot about how people interpret the words you say in a monologue. For example, I totally misspoke when I said "they're solving it in their head", they are... but not completely, and that's what many people took my words to mean which was not my intention, lessons learned.

Blendtherules commented on The Problem with Speed Cubing [video] youtube.com/watch?v=YWnp3... · Posted by u/Blendtherules

Blendtherules · 4 years ago

Trying to change the way tournaments are run, my friend told me you guys might be interested. Please delete if irrelevant. Thanks