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Arson9416 commented on Gemini AI   deepmind.google/technolog... · Posted by u/dmotz
ametrau · 2 years ago
I wonder what advertising will look like with this. Will they suggest products in the response? Like “Top ideas:…” and the LLM’s response.
Arson9416 · 2 years ago
Embedding search of the nearest products most applicable to the LLM response. Prompt augmentation: "Rewrite your response to include promotions of the following products without being obvious that you are promoting them."
Arson9416 commented on Gemini AI   deepmind.google/technolog... · Posted by u/dmotz
SeanAnderson · 2 years ago
Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still.

Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096

No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_...)

I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. It would've been a much better look to release something available to most countries and with the advertised stats.

Arson9416 · 2 years ago
Google is playing catchup while pretending that they've been at the forefront of this latest AI wave. This translates to a lot of talk and not a lot of action. OpenAI knew that just putting ChatGPT in peoples hands would ignite the internet more than a couple of over-produced marketing videos. Google needs to take a page from OpenAI's playbook.
Arson9416 commented on Ousted propaganda scholar accuses Harvard of bowing to Meta   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/ta988
ajkjk · 2 years ago
? Of course not that question doesn't even parse. Your strategy of acting like your conversational partners are idiots doesn't win you any points; it just makes you sound difficult and wrong.

Bribery is not connected to a free market per se, but bribery in a free market is still a problem to be solved in the context of that free market.

Arson9416 · 2 years ago
>but bribery in a free market is still a problem to be solved in the context of that free market.

Yes of course. I don't know why you keep suggesting I am against that. My issue is with the nonsensical attempts to tie bribery to capitalism, as if one is the result of the other.

Arson9416 commented on Ousted propaganda scholar accuses Harvard of bowing to Meta   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/ta988
ajkjk · 2 years ago
They are naturally and righteously bitter about the annoying status of secretive manipulations in our version of free-market capitalism. Their reaction to you, however, is simply because you are being an obstreperous asshole.
Arson9416 · 2 years ago
This reaction is uncalled for, especially for hackernews. I've been nothing but level-headed and fair, even though I disagree on the topic.

If you're looking for someone to criticize, you should look at your own behavior: "Fairly obvious, right?" an unsubstantive, smug, miserable response to my question, setting the tone for our interactions.

Arson9416 commented on Ask HN: How are quantum computing companies making money?    · Posted by u/Gooblebrai
Arson9416 · 2 years ago
I want to get into quantum computing, but I keep coming back to the idea that most of our problems are human problems, not quantum problems. At least with classical computers, we can build tools that help to solve the human problems. Eg: connecting people, facilitating better communication, sharing knowledge. With quantum computers, it's not clear how you map a human problem to a problem that quantum computers would be good for, so I lose interest.
Arson9416 commented on AI and Mass Spying   schneier.com/blog/archive... · Posted by u/hendler
Arson9416 · 2 years ago
I have a friend that is working as a contractor building AI-powered workplace spying software for the explicit purpose of behavior manipulation. It gives the employees and employers feedback reports about their behavior over chat and video. For example, if they used microaggressions, misgendered someone, or said something crass. This same friend will then talk about the dangers of dystopian technology.

People don't know what they're creating. Maybe it's time it bites them.

Arson9416 commented on Ousted propaganda scholar accuses Harvard of bowing to Meta   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/ta988
shuntress · 2 years ago
> In fact, arguments could be made as to why it happens less in free markets

Arguments "can be made" for anything. That is the worst possible justification for any position.

Corruption cannot be stopped without effort. The rules and institutions that regulate and control the market are that "effort".

Arson9416 · 2 years ago
Bribery is not connected to capitalism any more than it is connected to any other economic system, that's the point that you seem to be missing. People seem to want to dunk on capitalism, but it doesn't make any sense here.

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Arson9416 commented on Ousted propaganda scholar accuses Harvard of bowing to Meta   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/ta988
shuntress · 2 years ago
The point is that this type of corruption is inevitable when the "invisible hand" is completely unrestrained.
Arson9416 · 2 years ago
Bribery is a corruption that happens in every single economic system, so it has nothing to do with the "invisible hand" of capitalism. In fact, arguments could be made as to why it happens less in free markets (where an economy flows more freely) than in non-free markets (where there are artificial barriers, making bribery more effective/needed).
Arson9416 commented on Ousted propaganda scholar accuses Harvard of bowing to Meta   washingtonpost.com/techno... · Posted by u/ta988
ajkjk · 2 years ago
Well if you need it spelled out: the "invisible hand" refers to indirect social impacts of free markets which are typically meant to be good things. So any example of market-ish behavior causing things that seem incontrovertibly bad, like buying a department chair under the guise of targeted donations to influence policy to (presumably) protect a certain class of actors, is an example of the "invisible hand" doing a bad thing, hence an example of how this "feature" of free markets, often used to defend them, is actually a bad quality.

This is totally unsurprising to most people who aren't directly benefitting from an unchallenged free market and it usually seems like the "invisible hand" is brought up as a bullshit argument by those already in power to justify accumulating more power, so it's a point of bitterness, hence the OP's sarcasm.

Arson9416 · 2 years ago
Bribery is not "market-ish" behavior in the sense that it is connected to capitalism and free markets. But you also mention bitterness, which explains the reactions to my question. I think that means people want to be bitter at the idea of capitalism and free markets, whether or not it actually makes sense in this instance of bribery.

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