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23B1 commented on It sure looks like Meta stole a lot of books to build its AI lithub.com/it-sure-looks-... · Posted by u/pseudolus

dang · 7 months ago

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23B1 · 7 months ago

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23B1 commented on It sure looks like Meta stole a lot of books to build its AI lithub.com/it-sure-looks-... · Posted by u/pseudolus

carlosjobim · 7 months ago

Writers decide if they want to use a publisher and which publishers to use. With the internet, I don't think any good author needs to rely on a traditional publisher.

23B1 · 7 months ago

Not really. I don't just walk up to Random House and get my book on the B&N endcap. Also please define good author.

23B1 commented on It sure looks like Meta stole a lot of books to build its AI lithub.com/it-sure-looks-... · Posted by u/pseudolus

drewcoo · 7 months ago

> Fair use was designed for teachers photocopying pages of Walden for their pupils to read over the weekend.

Walden was first published in 1854. At the time, the maximum length of copyright in the US was 28 years (14 at first + 14 on renewal).

Notions of "fair use" in the US can be traced back to the mid-1800s, too. There were court rulings, but fair use was not codified into law until 1976. Non-profit educational use was explicitly called out in 1976 also.

Photocopiers were first patented in 1937.

23B1 · 7 months ago

I'm certain you understood my point.

23B1 commented on It sure looks like Meta stole a lot of books to build its AI lithub.com/it-sure-looks-... · Posted by u/pseudolus

derektank · 7 months ago

I don't read it as an ethical argument, it's an argument about the purpose of copyright. Copyright is intended to restrict reproduction of a work for the purpose of incentivizing the creation of new works. Copyright is not intended to restrict the transmission of knowledge.

23B1 · 7 months ago

OP's argument is a common one amongst the IP entitlements crowd.

23B1 commented on It sure looks like Meta stole a lot of books to build its AI lithub.com/it-sure-looks-... · Posted by u/pseudolus

verdverm · 7 months ago

Some people who create information want it to be free. They often use Creative Commons to ensure it stays free

I have a copyright on information I have created, but would never enforce it because I want it to be free and consumed by both humans and AI

23B1 · 7 months ago

Totally cool! I'm confused how that's related to what I'm saying though.

23B1 commented on It sure looks like Meta stole a lot of books to build its AI lithub.com/it-sure-looks-... · Posted by u/pseudolus

Filligree · 7 months ago

As a long-time writer, this case will have little impact on me, but I maintain a hope it’ll expand the limits of fair use and let us make more shared worlds than we’re allowed to.

23B1 · 7 months ago

Fair use was designed for teachers photocopying pages of Walden for their pupils to read over the weekend. Not industrial-scale laundering of IP to benefit shareholders.

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