Has the author (not OP) written anything on this topic themselves? This is a blunt comment, because I am fed up with being asked to read LLM content that the prompter thinks is novel and worthwhile because they don't know better.
I can forgive (even root for) someone who puts in the effort themselves to understand a problem and write about it, even if they fall short or miss. They have skin in the game. I have little patience for someone who doesn't understand the disproportionate burden generated content places on the READER.
I can certainly tell they've put the model through the ringer to be terse and use simple language, etc. But I am struggling to separate the human ideas from the vibed ones, and the tone of the whole thing is the usual LLM elevator pitch with "hushed reverence" * "movie trailer cadence".
But "spawn/fork" is just a different way of labeling the fairly-well-understood tactic (I won't call it a strategy) of just how much context to provide sub-agents. Claude Code already "spawns" everytime it does an explore. It can do this concurrently, too.
Beyond that, they seem to express wonder at how well models can use tools:
> In the example above, the agent chose spawn for the independent research tasks and fork for the analysis that needs everything. It made this choice on its own — the model understands the distinction intuitively.
Emphasis mine. They (or the model whose output they blindly published) are anthropomorphizing software that is already designed to work this way. They gave it "fork" and "spawn" tools. Are they claiming they didn't describe exactly how they were supposed to be used in the tool spec?
The criticism about the labeling is valid and I oversold. For clarity, this is what the agent sees:
`spawn`: "Create a spawned child node under your node."
`fork`: "Create a forked child node (inherits parent context) under your
node."
The novelty is less about the distinction between the two, it's the tree generation. I would have served you better, if I just left out the parts that aren't critical to the novelty. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
In all honesty, "would have written it myself but I was too eager to get it out the door" doesn't really make sense to me. You're acknowledging that you took a shortcut to get it out the door (blog post as tech debt is a new one!) - does that mean you'd like to write something up yourself eventually?
I hope so, and would like to read it. In particular, since this is presented as research, I'd be very interested to read about your experimental observations that show the risks/costs/edge cases/limits of this pattern. As it stands, there's no indication of self-critique or really any process of systematic evaluation of the solution.
You should also try to make context query the first class primitive.
Context query parameter can be natural language instruction how to compact current context passed to subagent.
When invoking you can use values like "empty" (nothing, start fresh), "summary" (summarizes), "relevant information from web designer PoV" (specific one, extract what's relevant), "bullet points about X" etc.
This way LLM can decide what's relevant, express it tersly and compaction itself will not clutter current context – it'll be handled by compaction subagent in isolation and discarded on completion.
What makes it first class is the fact that it has to be built in tool that has access to context (client itself), ie. it can't be implemented by isolated MCP because you want to avoid rendering context as input parameter during tool call, you just want short query.
depends_on is also based on context query but in this case it's a map where keys are subagent conversation ids that are blockers to perform this handed over task and value is context query what to extract to inject.
The actual post and this comment shows how early we are when simple and obvious ideas look novel when first conceptualizing them. Nothing against these ideas though, they are indeed good.
Thank you for the suggestion, I will explore this in the next iteration. I'm learning how to translate how humans do context management into how agents should do them
This kind of research is underrated. I have a strong feeling that these kinds of harness improvements will lead to solving whole classes of problems reliably, and matter just as much as model training.
Not exactly a surprise Claude did this out of the box with minimal prompting considering they’ve presumably been RLing the hell out of it for agent teams: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/agent-teams
Every time i see some new orchestrator framework worth more than a few hundred loc i cringe so hard. Reddit is flooded with them on the daily and HN has them on the front page occasionally.
My current setup is this;
- `tmux-bash` / `tmux-coding-agent`
- `tmux-send` / `tmux-capture`
- `semaphore_wait`
The other tools all create lockfiles and semaphore_wait is a small inotify wrapper.
They're all you need for 3 levels of orchestration. My recent discovery was that its best to have 1 dedicated supervisor that just semaphore_wait's on the 'main' agent spawning subagents. Basically a smart Ralph-wiggum.
Historically, Claude code used sequential planning with linear dependencies using tools like TodoWrite, TodoRead. There are open source MCP equivalents of TodoWrite.
I’ve found both the open source TodoWrite and building your own TodoWrite with a backing store surprisingly effective for Planning and avoiding developer defined roles and developer defined plans/workflows that the author calls in the blog for AI-SRE usecases. It also stops the agent from looping indefinitely.
Cord is a clever model and protocol for tree-like dependencies using the Spawn and Fork model for clean context and prior context respectively.
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I can forgive (even root for) someone who puts in the effort themselves to understand a problem and write about it, even if they fall short or miss. They have skin in the game. I have little patience for someone who doesn't understand the disproportionate burden generated content places on the READER.
I can certainly tell they've put the model through the ringer to be terse and use simple language, etc. But I am struggling to separate the human ideas from the vibed ones, and the tone of the whole thing is the usual LLM elevator pitch with "hushed reverence" * "movie trailer cadence".
But "spawn/fork" is just a different way of labeling the fairly-well-understood tactic (I won't call it a strategy) of just how much context to provide sub-agents. Claude Code already "spawns" everytime it does an explore. It can do this concurrently, too.
Beyond that, they seem to express wonder at how well models can use tools:
> In the example above, the agent chose spawn for the independent research tasks and fork for the analysis that needs everything. It made this choice on its own — the model understands the distinction intuitively.
Emphasis mine. They (or the model whose output they blindly published) are anthropomorphizing software that is already designed to work this way. They gave it "fork" and "spawn" tools. Are they claiming they didn't describe exactly how they were supposed to be used in the tool spec?
`spawn`: "Create a spawned child node under your node."
`fork`: "Create a forked child node (inherits parent context) under your node."
The novelty is less about the distinction between the two, it's the tree generation. I would have served you better, if I just left out the parts that aren't critical to the novelty. Thank you for taking the time to comment.
In all honesty, "would have written it myself but I was too eager to get it out the door" doesn't really make sense to me. You're acknowledging that you took a shortcut to get it out the door (blog post as tech debt is a new one!) - does that mean you'd like to write something up yourself eventually?
I hope so, and would like to read it. In particular, since this is presented as research, I'd be very interested to read about your experimental observations that show the risks/costs/edge cases/limits of this pattern. As it stands, there's no indication of self-critique or really any process of systematic evaluation of the solution.
You should also try to make context query the first class primitive.
Context query parameter can be natural language instruction how to compact current context passed to subagent.
When invoking you can use values like "empty" (nothing, start fresh), "summary" (summarizes), "relevant information from web designer PoV" (specific one, extract what's relevant), "bullet points about X" etc.
This way LLM can decide what's relevant, express it tersly and compaction itself will not clutter current context – it'll be handled by compaction subagent in isolation and discarded on completion.
What makes it first class is the fact that it has to be built in tool that has access to context (client itself), ie. it can't be implemented by isolated MCP because you want to avoid rendering context as input parameter during tool call, you just want short query.
Ie. you could add something like:
depends_on is also based on context query but in this case it's a map where keys are subagent conversation ids that are blockers to perform this handed over task and value is context query what to extract to inject.I've been playing with a closely related idea of treating the context as a graph. Inspired by the KGoT paper - https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.02670
I call this "live context" because it's the living brain of my agents
Neat concept though, would be cool to see some tests of performance on some tasks.
My current setup is this;
- `tmux-bash` / `tmux-coding-agent`
- `tmux-send` / `tmux-capture`
- `semaphore_wait`
The other tools all create lockfiles and semaphore_wait is a small inotify wrapper.
They're all you need for 3 levels of orchestration. My recent discovery was that its best to have 1 dedicated supervisor that just semaphore_wait's on the 'main' agent spawning subagents. Basically a smart Ralph-wiggum.
https://github.com/offline-ant/pi-tmux if anybody is intrested.
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I’ve found both the open source TodoWrite and building your own TodoWrite with a backing store surprisingly effective for Planning and avoiding developer defined roles and developer defined plans/workflows that the author calls in the blog for AI-SRE usecases. It also stops the agent from looping indefinitely.
Cord is a clever model and protocol for tree-like dependencies using the Spawn and Fork model for clean context and prior context respectively.