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exabrial · 25 days ago
I think the one benefit people are overlooking is that there is an opportunity to increase power generation.

Rather than saying "no", how about making the new datacenters fund nuclear, solar, and grid battery?

subscribed · 25 days ago
New datacenters aren't harmless (noise or NoX pollution is real), and they'll consume more than they generate.

Yours better off mandating solar panels on parking lots (especially in the US!), etc.

AngryData · 24 days ago
I mean there are a number of places where datacenters have been built and claim to be putting 100% of the money forward to power their data centers with plants and infrastructure, however with everyone around those areas still claiming to be paying more for power afterwards.
blibble · 25 days ago
> how about making the new datacenters fund nuclear, solar, and grid battery?

good luck with that

any promises will be ignored, avoided or dumped onto regular people the very moment the approval is granted

icwtyjj · 25 days ago
What about a making it prerequisite? Demonstrate you have built the nuclear/solar/whatever capacity to cover your own energy before you're allowed to build a datacenter?
gruez · 25 days ago
>any promises will be ignored, avoided or dumped onto regular people the very moment the approval is granted

Doesn't seem too hard to force the datacenter to put up a bond for it, and then if the requirements/timelines aren't met the bond's seized.

olivierestsage · 25 days ago
Been amazing to see how far tech companies have fallen in public esteem (good). I remember when my friends and I would get together to watch the new MacBook announcements, eager to see what was coming. Feels as distant now as sk8erboi culture.
PearlRiver · 24 days ago
I mean what do these data centers provide for the locals? They are big ugly boxes were nobody actually works. All the money goes to faceless mega corporations.

At least with a nuclear power plant you can have the patriotic pride of doing something for the nation.

lenkite · 23 days ago
Not to mention, your electricity bill increases. It is just your money transferred indirectly to billionaire pockets even if you don't consume their product.
atonse · 25 days ago
Doesn’t help that they’ve gotten so big. They’ve become “the man” the establishment that has a direct line to everyone’s brains.

And have in so many cases abused their power.

All that not counting the stagnation and enshittification.

I also used to get together with friends to watch Apple Keynotes. They were so much fun.

But now they’re just extremely sanitized pre produced videos (basically ads) that lack any sort of soul.

Yes yes I know they were always mainly ads. But there was something to be said for people presenting on stage.

dangus · 25 days ago
Back in the day, these companies stayed in their lane, so to speak.

When you bought a computer, that’s all it was. It had much more of a toy or appliance like appeal rather than this deeply integrated life augmenter. The idea that a company like Apple or even a bigger (at the time) company like Microsoft would own a movie/TV studio and broadcast major league sports was an insane idea.

I will say regarding keynotes, it wasn’t limited to the genuine nature of the companies. The 90s and 2000s were just on different levels of the pace of technology development. I am sure that even Microsoft had an exciting keynote or two and they were the evil empire in those days.