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JumpCrisscross · 8 hours ago
Is this a credible source?
potsandpans · 8 hours ago
The file is on the department of justice website for you to see with your own eyes.

What exactly do you need?

The question is: is the date mismatch an accident or is it not.

JumpCrisscross · 8 hours ago
> question is: is the date mismatch an accident or is it not

Literally what I need. Context. Whether errors like this are common in this format. If anyone has noted this before.

saubeidl · 8 hours ago
verdverm · 8 hours ago
I believe they are all coming from the same post on Reddit

More news sources does not increase reputability. Most of them are social media bottom feeders and forgot how to do the basics of journalism

AnimalMuppet · 9 hours ago
The fine article just says that the statement was "dated" the day before Epstein's death. Well, dated how? By a machine timestamp, or by a hand-entered date at the top of it?

The easiest way to have this happen is to have a human type the date, and have them make a mistake. (Ever put the wrong date on a check?) But there's not enough info in the article to know if that's a possibility here.

And there's plenty of reason to think it was something other than suicide. Two checks in a row got skipped, and two cameras malfunctioned, all in the same night? And someone mistyped the date on the statement? All just coincidence? That seems... improbable.

So, while I can see that there could be an innocent explanation, I'm not convinced that there is one.

MilnerRoute · 9 hours ago
The weirdest part is it says Epstein was "found unresponsive in his cell and pronounced dead shortly thereafter." That just doesn't seem like the words you'd use to describe a hanging suicide. (Would you really write that the dangling body was "found unresponsive...")
tim333 · 3 hours ago
Another oddity is if you look at photos of the body he was strangled by a narrow thing like a wire, but the sheets wrapped around his neck were not like that at all, and the beds were too low. It seems pretty clear someone strangled him with something like a wire then put the sheets around and hung him up as best they could.
r721 · an hour ago
Some more details from the recent CBS article:

>Thomas told investigators he discovered Epstein in his cell shortly after 6:30 a.m. on Aug.10 and that he "ripped" Epstein down from the hanging position.

>Investigators asked what happened to the noose.

>"I don't recall taking the noose off. I really don't," he replied. "I don't recall taking the thing from around his neck."

>Noel, who remained standing at the cell entrance, told investigators she saw Thomas lower Epstein to the floor but did not see a noose around his neck.

>The noose Epstein allegedly used has never been definitively identified. According to the inspector general's report, a noose collected at the scene was later determined not to be the ligature used in Epstein's death.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/epstein-files-jail-cell-death-v...

treetalker · 2 hours ago
Could be spook speak — conveniently omitting that he was (perhaps) made to be unresponsive by one conspirator; then stating that he was found unresponsive by another; then omitting that he was (perhaps) killed while unresponsive (if not before); and then stating that he was pronounced dead.
toomuchtodo · 9 hours ago
I think a fun thought experiment is, "If this is indeed a cover up and he's still alive, how would you find where is currently is?" If he's still dead, I think finding the truth might still be valuable for historical and closure purposes, but not as valuable as the "still alive" scenario.
saubeidl · 8 hours ago
I think "he was murdered by agents of the state before he could reveal anything damaging to the ruling class" is more likely than "he faked his own death and lives on an island somewhere".

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