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tangotaylor · 2 months ago
> it’s just really nice to be able to tell an AI agent to go write some code without worrying about its motivation or interests, since it has none.

I am glad I don't work for this person.

nvader · 2 months ago
Disclosure, I do work for Josh, and I can tell you that he's thought quite deeply about the negative implications of the agents that are coming. Among enumerating the ways in which AI agents will transform knowledge work, this points out the ways which we might come to regret.

> Even if this plays out over 20 or 30 years instead of 10 years, what kind of world are we leaving for our descendants?

> What should we be doing today to prepare for (or prevent) this future?

crooked-v · 2 months ago
If anyone really thinks AI agents can't have motivation, see what happens when you tell DeepSeek to make a website about Taiwanese independence.
nine_k · 2 months ago
No, "motivation" is what puts one into motion, hence the name. AIs have constraints and even agendas, which can be triggered by a prompt. But it's not action, it's reaction.

DeepSeek may produce a perfectly good web site explaining why Taiwanese independence is not a thing, and how Taiwan wants back to the mainland. But it's won't produce such a web site by its own motivation, only in response to an external stimulus.

ronsor · 2 months ago
I'm genuinely curious what happens now.
zkmon · 3 months ago
The article doesn't talk about any agents outside of coding work. Coding is not the work the world is running on. Agent concept requires much more selling than chat bots, which means they are solutions searching for problems.
skeeter2020 · 2 months ago
the author also starts with "The fundamental difference with AI agents is that they take the human completely out of the loop, and this changes everything.", then focuses on coding. Is anyone actually having success with completely autonomous agents coding; no human oversight or validation?

He then presents a very naive vision of how agents are superior, where it basically all comes down to "generate code more efficiently" - has that ever been the crux challenge to solving problems with software?

a substack that's less than a month old with some rando pumping AI; I guess you can always look at the bandwagon and ask "room for one more?"

manmal · 2 months ago
Some of the world is running on emails and excel sheets. That’s doable for an agent already, if you’re willing to let it loose. Problem is, how do you get all your values and unknown knowns into its context?
austinbaggio · 2 months ago
Willing to let them loose is the more salient point. If you let your agents loose on your entire body of output and tools at work, then you'll build that knowledge up pretty quickly.

Tall ask right now, with privacy and agency (no pun intended) concerns

irishcoffee · 2 months ago
I can say with absolute certainty that I have never used an LLM to tweak an email, and will never, ever use an LLM “agent” on my email, work or personal.

“Hey, how’s that hardware/software integration effort coming? What are your thoughts on the hardware so far?”

Fuck me if I let an LLM answer that.

crims0n · 2 months ago
Interesting thought experiment, replace "AI agent" with "computer" in this article. Seems our parents/grandparents may have been having some of the same conversations 50 years ago.

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The advantages of computers over human employees:

1. The best computer can be copied infinitely.

2. Computers can run 24/7

3. Computers could theoretically think faster than humans

4. Computers have minimal management overhead

5. Computers can be instantly scaled up and down

6. Computers don’t mind running in a nightmare surveillance prison

7. Computers are more tax efficient

baxtr · 2 months ago
Slight modification: replace AI agents with "Computer programs" and everything starts making sense again.
g-b-r · 2 months ago
I'm pretty sure I've seen ads and articles along those lines in the '80s
skybrian · 2 months ago
There are a lot of things you can do from a shell prompt, and now we have AI ghosts that can do them too, sometimes better than us. Yes, within some industries, this is going to be huge!

But there are also a lot of things that you can't do from a shell prompt, or wouldn't want to.

adventured · 2 months ago
The largest resource use of AI over the next 50 years will be generating entertainment structures for humans. Productivity focused AI will be the most economically useful, however it'll be far less resource intensive than the entertainment generation (generally speaking, AI tasked with driving human pleasure).

World building alone will be at least a magnitude greater in resource use than all productivity-focused AI combined (including robotics + AI). Then throw in traditional media generation (audio, images, video, textual).

AI will be the ultimate sedative for humanity. We're going into the box and never coming back out and absolutely nothing can stop that from happening. For at least 95% of humanity the future value that AI offers in terms of bolstering pleasure-of-existence is far beyond the alternatives it's not really worth considering any other potential outcome, there will be no other outcome. Most of humanity will lose interest in the mundane garbage of dredging through day to day mediocrity (oh I know what you're thinking: but but but life isn't really that mediocre - yes, it definitely is, for the majority of the eight billion it absolutely is).

Out there is nothing, more nothing, some more nothing, a rock, some more nothing, some more of what we already know, nothing, more nothing, and a lot more nothing. In there will be anything you want. It's obvious what the masses will overwhelmingly choose.

cicko · 2 months ago
I hope that works out and the queues in the mountains become a bit shorter. Or most other beautiful outdoor spots.
g-b-r · 2 months ago
Except that right now almost everyone hates AI-generated entertainment products (slop), with a passion
belter · 2 months ago
This is basically the modern version of an Influencer...just on Substack instead of YouTube. Big claims, slick framing, zero rigor. It sells a narrative about “agents” as a brand, not an analysis of what actually works.
goda90 · 2 months ago
> Agents don’t mind running in a nightmare surveillance prison

Which means they would have no empathy when tasked with running a nightmare surveillance prison for humans.

zeroonetwothree · 2 months ago
This article is basically just saying if we have AGI then there might be big consequences for humans. Well yes, obviously. People have been discussing that for decades...
skeeter2020 · 2 months ago
this guy's been discussing it for almost a month.