Somewhat irrelevant at this point. The peptides are sold freely in other countries as substances with which to experiment in petri dishes. Not for use on humans. I repeat - not for use on humans.
I'm not saying I've done this, but if you're handy with bitcoin, it's so much cheaper to go through the steroid sites. I saw a sale of 10 x 10mg for reta where the total price was $225 with shipping. That's $22.5 per vial which is absurdly cheaper than any of the "legit" methods of getting GLPs.
And hey, if you want a little test/anavar/tren to spice up your GLP, you can get that in the same order!
Did I get it right Triz (Mounjaro or Zepbound) and Reta (still in clinical trials) have better mechanisms than Sema (Ozempic or Wegovy), so gray market customers choose them, and gray market versions of all three are a fraction of official versions?
The worst thing about these drugs hitting the pharma market in recent years is that it has sucked the air out of the room for other investment due to their immense profitability. So much cutting edge talent is being squandered to work on these weight loss drugs because they pay the bills better than solving rare disease. I've heard a direct quote from a pharma product manager in person: "we don't look for cures, we look for treatments." You know, because cure implies a one time payment.
The problem is that this talent is not solving the issue. They're creating appetite suppressants to treat the symptoms of the underlying issue. We should be implementing things like sugar tax instead. Starbucks has no business selling 1500 calories worth of sugar with a sprinkle of coffee in a cup.
I’m not so sure. When pharma companies are flush with cash they tend to get more experimental. Lilly’s gene editing group is one of the few that’s doing well (last I heard anyway) and they recently acquired Verve. I can’t imagine that would happen without GLP-1 profits bankrolling everything. Rare disease is effectively charity and the money has to come from somewhere.
And hey, if you want a little test/anavar/tren to spice up your GLP, you can get that in the same order!
Talk about perverse incentive.
Isn’t this backwards? Obesity is probably one of the very top health epidemics we’re facing. Rare diseases aren’t.
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Rare diseases are not solved, you die or have lifelong quality of life issues. Collectively, they aren't that rare.