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Posted by u/anon191928 4 months ago
Where is the exponential growth part of AI?
It's been almost 3 years since chatgpt. Progress was great but this does not seem like it's going to replace almost all jobs in few years? What am I missing? This thing might be decade away from fully replacing a software engineer. Anything else? how many more decades?

Did top insider tech people and VCs lied to us again?

mrdependable · 4 months ago
It hasn't reached exponential growth because, at least publicly, there isn't an AI that can improve itself recursively. All jobs are not being replaced yet because AI still requires human input and judgement. Also, not all jobs are done on a computer, and not all humans want to talk to a computer as if it is a human.

Tech people and VCs are selling a vision to people with money. The people with enough power and money to make it happen will reshape entire industries around AI doing the work if that's what it takes.

hodgehog11 · 4 months ago
This. Recursive self-improvement is the most feared hypothetical endpoint in the field because it's unclear where it might end up from there. Maybe it will never happen, I certainly hope it doesn't.

I would also add that the AI research labs are not nearly as competent as they would like to convey. Most technologies increase in capability exponentially because they are built on a solid foundation over many years. Our understanding of neural networks is dramatically outpaced by their capabilities, so everyone is really just trying random things to see what improves the status quo. This is not an efficient way to develop technology when the cost of running experiments is exorbitant.

muzani · 4 months ago
It's only exponential because people extrapolate. This wasn't something the "insiders and VCs" promised - the Singularity was a concept from science fiction.

When you cut coding time by 80%, it doesn't mean things go 5x faster, it just means that the non-coding things now take up 80% of your time.

For big companies, the bottleneck was never productivity, it's sustainability. If McDonald's sold 3x as many burgers per customer, they'd need 3x the meat. Customers would get fat and lead to a negative feedback loop where they start eating elsewhere.

AI means some people can now send out thousands of resumes... but it also means companies are being flooded with resumes. People who are searching for jobs and candidates have a harder time; there's some form of pollution going on here.

Things that were exponential (startup growth) are going up a little more. The old standard was 7% growth/week, now it's closer to 10%. A big part of this is because we can release prototypes in a week rather than 3 months and $90k. Prototypes are not products, but they get feedback earlier and are more likely to hit survivability earlier.

codingdave · 4 months ago
Progress is not as fast as some people believe. Shortly after the ChatGPT launch, I quickly heard discussions about what it would really take to make LLMs work in real products and processes. The agentic solutions that are now coming to fruition match the visions I heard expressed at that time.

From my perspective, we spent 3 years to move from ideation to reality. That isn't terribly fast. But having gotten there, exponential growth is now possible... but it will not be universal. It will be the same as any other new product that finds a market: specific solutions will be built and some will take off like a rocket, when the PMF is there. But the idea that any AI-based product will do so is a myth.

haute_cuisine · 4 months ago
According to CEOs of leading AI companies, we're three to six months away from AI replacing software engineers and recruiters, although it isn't clear who recruiter AI agent will be interviewing by then.

Anthropic CEO, Mar 2025 - "AI will write 90 % of the code for software engineers within the next three to six months"

Perplexity CEO, Jul 2025 - "Recruiters will be history … AI agents will replace them in six months"

incomingpain · 4 months ago
The exponential growth of parameters did pause. open weights are catching up, but for the most part that growth ended. The capability of the models did rise exponentially but where are we now? We hit a hardware limit. Even with datacenters full of huge gpus, we dont have good cases for 5 trillion parameter models.

Then came MOE, which in my opinion is like multiplying the parameters; but I'm pretty sure at that same time, the MOE models shrunk the size. It's organized better.

If you're still looking at that exponential growth, you're looking at giant CAT mining dump trucks and thinking sports cars arent big enough. This exponential growth is hiding now.

Then reasoning happened and it again shrunk the total size in parameters vs quality.

qwen3-coder 480 B is night and day better coder than say Llama 3 405B. Not even comparable and nobody debates. The exponential growth is happening, but not parameters.

How about AI usage? Stats are showing AI usage is 4x larger than January 1st of this year. Might not be exponential but wow! We dont even really know the private stats but openai has hundreds of billions in spend for 2x stargate datacenters. They know whats up.

>Did top insider tech people and VCs lied to us again?

Yep, all lies. You should ignore AI and stop using it.

hodgehog11 · 4 months ago
> Yep, all lies. You should ignore AI and stop using it.

This is throwing the baby out with the bath water. There are a lot of really good things that we can do with this technology. Unfortunately, most tech companies and VCs are not as interested in these applications because they just want to make digital slaves.

austin-cheney · 4 months ago
1. ChatGPT is just LLM.

2. Consider why these companies want AI to replace human developers. AI is expensive and error prone so it isn’t about money. It’s that company leaders don’t trust their developers. If developers cannot work outside a very narrow lane, like CRUD apps, or require colossal frameworks to just put text on screen then why bother having humans in the first place? AI can do this without lying about its self importance.

3. Consider what AI is currently capable of versus what people are wanting. That is a huge gap that answers your questions.

4. Finally, consider why AI output is not trusted and thus why its actual value, before expenses, is flat despite being so expensive and so desired. Numerically this is completely defeating.

If you looked at this subject only in terms of measurements it’s stupendously damning and makes you realize investment is an exercise of social behavior.

Festro · 4 months ago
Because it's obvious marketing BS to predict exponential growth?

Exponential growth is a rare phenomenon in any area, let alone computing or industry. To predict it will take place without hard data that it's already happening or a perfect analogous reference, is not possible. You've been deceived.

All that's happened is a new tech has reach MVP maturity, been released to the masses, and now it's plateauing in terms of raw power increases, whilst continuing to mature in terms of applications.

AI power output will now proceed at below Moore's Law levels, because it's mostly hardware bound. Applications will jump around as we saturate our lives with more and more AI-enabled devices.

None of that is exponential. How could it ever be?

atleastoptimal · 4 months ago
LLM ability to complete long tasks is increasing at an exponential rate

https://metr.org/blog/2025-03-19-measuring-ai-ability-to-com...