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habryka · 20 days ago
Oh, hey HN! I run Lightcone Infrastructure which runs this residency (as well as LessWrong.com and the venue, Lighthaven.space).

Happy to answer questions if anyone has any. Ben (one of my co-founders) is more centrally in charge of it, but I should have enough context to answer really any question.

gorgoiler · 19 days ago
I could be the only person to have thought this, but when I saw this was a residency advertising money and accommodation I assumed this was a grant for an arts/culture programme. If it’s just me that thought that then I’m clearly too naive, but if ten people do then it might be worth adjusting the copy.
habryka · 19 days ago
Makes sense, it certainly is the case that these programs tend to pay people, though I have kind of learned to treat that with a bit of suspicion (having run lots of programs of that kind).

As they say, "if you are not the customer, you are the product", and I really wanted this fellowship to not be the kind of thing where the actual underlying motivation is some kind of recruitment scheme that drives the program objectives, while looking on the surface like a thing that is optimized to help the residents.

venkii · 19 days ago
Any sense if applying later will be detrimental?

The main reason to delay: I've started writing relatively recently, and expect I might have more posts I'd showcase in my application by then.

habryka · 19 days ago
My guess is not much? Because we are doing rolling applications, so we are somehow trying to judge how many good applicants in total we are going to get (classical secretary problem). Applying early means we might let you in with a lower bar if we end up getting a lot of great applications later and raise our bar. Applying later might be better if we realize we were overly conservative in the beginning and are disappointed in the later applications.

Thinking about it, my guess is we will probably let promising people who applied early know that they are on some kind of waitlist and extend an invite to them if we end up disappointed with the later applications, so if you are flexible, I think that makes early strictly easier. I don't expect the effect to be that large though.

TimorousBestie · 19 days ago
Any sweetheart deals with a blogging platform yet? I expect the Nearly Free Speech folks or the bearblog dev would hear you out.
habryka · 19 days ago
Not yet! My guess is Substack is the best choice for most people, just because it's easy to set up, has a bunch of UI problems solved, and has a non-terrible way to get towards getting food on the table (even if you don't paywall anything).
defrost · 20 days ago
Back in the day it cost a round of drinks at the pub to be read and questioned about your work in progress:

  Until late 1949, Inklings readings and discussions were usually held on Thursday evenings in C. S. Lewis's rooms at Magdalen. The Inklings and friends also gathered informally on Tuesdays at midday at a local public house, The Eagle and Child, familiarly and alliteratively known in the Oxford community as The Bird and Baby, or simply The Bird.
~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inklings

throwanem · 20 days ago
And admission to an Oxford college, of course.
defrost · 20 days ago
For that group of Inklings, sure.

University was free for, say, the likes of Greg Egan and others to study physics and math, with a nominal student union fee to be able to join / form clubs and apply for a base beer, wine, and cheese fund to lubricate weekly discussion.

voidhorse · 19 days ago
There are plenty of writing groups in existence today that do precisely this, no degree required.
egypturnash · 19 days ago
Man I wish I had $3.5k to do this. Actually I wish I had $3.5k to do this and try to go into total overdrive mode on my queer comics for a while, I could probably crank out a page a day if I just sat my ass in front of the computer all day instead of going out and doing errands and slacking around the park.

Oh well, guess I'll stay in New Orleans and draw queer comics at a less punishing pace instead.

(actually sheesh if we use the standard conversion rate of "a picture is worth a thousand words" then my usual peak of two pages a week is probably more work per week than the stated minimum of 500 words per post.)

01HNNWZ0MV43FF · 19 days ago
500 words a post and I'm not working full-time? Shit that's not even a third of a NaNoWriMo. My hands don't even hurt. I already shitpost 500 words a day on Hacker News, my third-favorite social media content platform.

Honestly I'm tempted. I know the rationalists have a bad rap but I have a grudging respect for Scott Alexander.

Plus $3,500 to live in Cali for a month... barely more than I'm paying over here

cosmicgadget · 19 days ago
I'd be interested to see the writing of folks that do this course.
ajkjk · 19 days ago
I appreciate this as an example of (what strikes me as) millennials doing institution-building.
netown · 20 days ago
interesting idea, kind of like the y-combinator of blogging except with upfront tuition being paid instead of a longer-term investment by the 'provider'--i wonder if that business model could work as well?
habryka · 20 days ago
We were thinking about whether there is any way to do some kind of income sharing agreement, but given how messy those tend to be (see all the Lambda school stuff as an example) we couldn't figure out a way to make it work.

Maybe if everyone was definitely starting a Substack we could take a small cut of Substack revenue for the next year or two, which would be straightforward enough.

If anyone has ideas, I would definitely be curious to hear them.

inhumantsar · 19 days ago
Maybe an Inkhaven substack that the writers agree to crosspost to for some length of time?
tenkabuto · 20 days ago
It'd be fun to join in from afar by pledging to do the same things, but for nowhere near the cost. (The place looks super neat, but I'm not paying that much, don't live near there, and need to report to my employer's office twice a week.)

I wonder if there'll be an aggregator of the blog posts written as post of this cohort (and others, if there's more cohorts).

habryka · 20 days ago
> It'd be fun to join in from afar by pledging to do the same things, but for nowhere near the cost.

Yep, Bay Area rent and cost of living is a big pain. $1,500 for housing for a month is still below real estate costs on our side, and $2,000 in program fees is barely enough to pay for the staff costs and program supplies. We might barely break even, but my guess is we'll lose a bunch of money on the program (which is fine, we are doing this because it's good for the world, not to make money).

I feel like for a program like this it might make sense for someone to run it outside of one of the highest cost of living places in the world, but it's where we are located, so that's what we have to make work (I do think being in the Bay Area does also attract people and makes it more likely for people to participate, so it's not an obvious call even from first principles).

> I wonder if there'll be an aggregator of the blog posts written as post of this cohort (and others, if there's more cohorts).

We're definitely planning to do something like that! Not sure yet about the exact format, but we'll definitely make it easy to find what everyone is publishing as part of the residency somehow.

darknavi · 20 days ago
> It'd be fun to join in from afar by pledging to do the same things, but for nowhere near the cost.

I am not familiar with blogging or this sphere at all, but it's so funny to me that I was assuming the website said that the program would PAY the bloggers to be there for a month (including housing) and not the other way around.

I assumed this was one of those "We'll let you write a book while riding Amtrak for free" sort of thing. Not sure why I thought that, but it made me laugh after reading your comment.

munificent · 19 days ago
It's because they describe it as a "residency" and not a "retreat". Residencies usually pay the artist/writer to be there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist-in-residence

paulcole · 20 days ago
> It'd be fun to join in from afar by pledging to do the same things

What’s stopping you besides the unsettling truth that it’s more fun to think that it’d be fun to join in from afar by pledging to do the same things than it is to actually do the same things from afar?

benwerd · 20 days ago
It feels like there's a particular ideology uniting the bloggers involved that isn't actually declared on the page, centering on Lesswrong and the kinds of conversations hosted there. I think that's fine for that community; I'd love to see a version of this for people who buy into a more humanist version of the present and future.
habryka · 20 days ago
Definitely not trying to hide it!

I do want to not scare people who aren't into LessWrong and similar things, as I would really like this residency to be less opinionated about stuff than LessWrong and other projects we usually run, so I feel like putting a big LessWrong logo somewhere would have given the wrong impression.

I would also love to see other people run similar things (including in places that aren't the Bay Area and so where they can run it much more cheaply). I feel like it could be a cool model.

I also think an online-only version of this could be great. The original inspiration for this project came from seeing that the Nanowrimo charity had shut down, and realizing that I would love to do something like Nanowrimo but focused on blogging and essays instead of novels. I ended up registering Nablowrimo.com (National Blogging Writing Month) and might end up trying to make that a thing, or would be happy to give the URL to someone who is committed to make something happen here.