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bb88 · 2 months ago
Here's some local and national reporting I found interesting.

1. Kerr county balked at the cost of flood sirens. [0]

2. Kerr county didn't alert all cell phones of the emergency. [1]

3. Kerr county repeatedly asked the State of Texas for flood help and the state said no. [2]

4. Kerr county was in the bottom half of property taxes in the state of Texas in 2017. [3]

[0] https://www.wowt.com/2025/07/11/small-texas-community-where-...

[1] https://www.nbcdfw.com/investigations/fema-records-kerr-coun...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/texas-flood-a...

[3] https://www.uttyler.edu/academics/colleges-schools/business/...

Yeul · 2 months ago
This is why in the Netherlands they made a separate tax to pay for flood defense that the government can't touch.

Because every time the economy went down the drain the first things that got cut from the budget were the dikes (it's no coincidence the worst flood in history was in 1953 when the great recession, WW2 and colonial war drained the treasury). And there's always another storm.

msla · 2 months ago
From my post the mods buried:

> On July 5, as floodwaters were starting to recede, FEMA received 3,027 calls from disaster survivors and answered 3,018, or roughly 99.7 percent, the documents show. Contractors with four call center companies answered the vast majority of the calls.

> That evening, however, Ms. Noem did not renew the contracts with the four companies and hundreds of contractors were fired, according to the documents and the person briefed on the matter.

> The next day, July 6, FEMA received 2,363 calls and answered 846, or roughly 35.8 percent, according to the documents. And on Monday, July 7, the agency fielded 16,419 calls and answered 2,613, or around 15.9 percent, the documents show.

Animats · 2 months ago
> Kerr county didn't alert all cell phones of the emergency.

Might not have helped. Camp Mystic campers were not allowed cell phones.[1]

[1] https://www.campmystic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/FINAL-...

mulmen · 2 months ago
If there’s anything I know about summer camp it’s that everyone diligently follows the rules, especially those regarding contraband.
mikeyouse · 2 months ago
Staff surely had them.
arp242 · 2 months ago
From that NYT article:

"Some residents argued that outdoor sirens blaring warnings in the event of a flash flood would ruin the natural feel of the area that many prized. “The thought of our beautiful Kerr County having these damn sirens going off in the middle of the night,” one county commissioner at the time, Buster Baldwin, said during a 2016 meeting. “I’m going to have to start drinking again to put up with y’all.” (Mr. Baldwin died in 2022.)"

I'm thinking hard here, but I'm reasonably sure this is at least in the top-5 most moronic short-sighted, selfish, brain-dead things I've ever seen in my life. Possibly even top-3. Yeah, I'd join Buster in the bar to drink ourselves in a coma.

jandrewrogers · 2 months ago
In fairness, a similar issue has traditionally existed with tornado warnings, which they likely have in that part of the US. Most of the people affected by the warning are not actually at risk because the warnings are poorly targeted or the risk doesn’t meaningfully materialize. Over time, people get warning fatigue and they start ignoring them. It becomes a “boy who cried wolf” situation which makes the loud sirens that much more of a nuisance.

The spam-y nature of many disaster warning systems is widely understood to be an issue. If these people have existing experience with other low hit-rate warning systems like for tornados, it isn’t surprising that they would find even more warnings to be a nuisance. The false positive rates that people experience is too high by an order of magnitude to be an effective system.

If they have warning sirens that are ineffective at conveying real risk, they stop being warnings and become background noise.

dmix · 2 months ago
NIMBY is the most powerful political force in every western country.

It's far easier killing off any new economic and public development at the local level than any national level environmentalist or small government movement could ever dream for.

Henchman21 · 2 months ago
Well, you are talking about Texas.
vkou · 2 months ago
Kerr county didn't balk at the cost of flood sirens. Biden sent them 10 million dollars for this exact purpose, and they refused to spend it, because it would have let the federal Democrats do something useful for their constituents. [1]

> "Accepting the ARPA money and putting our County under existing and future executive orders would federalize us and make us all slaves."

These people are certifiably insane.

The 10 million did eventually get spent on new police radios and bonuses for the sheriff's department. [2]

[1] https://www.chron.com/news/article/kerr-county-flood-funds-2...

[2] https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-co...

Spooky23 · 2 months ago
When a state like Texas is so gerrymandered that no political competition is really possible, and ignorance is celebrated, why would be surprised that ignorant people elect stupid people to govern them?

I’m sure that they claim to “back the blue” while refusing to put the communications tools that keep them safe in place as well.

What people of this ilk have done to our nation makes me sick.

ykonstant · 2 months ago
This reads like an exaggerated parody. It is unfathomably depressing that it is the actual state of affairs :(
leptons · 2 months ago
They would cut off their nose to spite their face. Look around, half the people in the country have this same level of brainrot.
DonHopkins · 2 months ago
"Insane" is much too mild a word. "Sociopathic" is slightly better, but still not specific or intense enough.

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duxup · 2 months ago
>Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, who has instituted a new requirement that she personally approve expenses over $100,000, did not renew the contracts until Thursday, five days after the contracts expired.

Your classic manager who feels they are so important that hey HAVE TO be involved in X,Y,Z but they are not a responsible enough person to actually do the job.

bb88 · 2 months ago
FEMA has "Emergency" in the name. Traditionally, it's supposed to come in when the normal rescue infrastructure has failed, due to earthquake, weather, etc. You're not optimizing for cost here. You're optimizing for reliable emergency management -- and that's going to cost money.

If you wanted a different agency, like one that prioritized "recovery after 6 months", well, it would help to inform the nation that FEMA is no longer the nationwide emergency management agency. It's up to the local and state governments.

scarface_74 · 2 months ago
And Texas voters overwhelmingly voted for politicians who caused this and still make excuses for these same politicians. I am tired of caring for people who vote for people that harm them.

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KingOfCoders · 2 months ago
I once worked for a company that had a founder who was cancelling all contracts on a yearly basis, including renting the office. They were proud of cutting costs that way. After two times, the property owner said, "Great! I have a company that asked me about the space and is willing to pay much more" and the company of several hundred people had to move on very short notice.
1718627440 · 2 months ago
They could have simply renegotiated the contracts with the same benefits and less negative effects.
chris_wot · 2 months ago
Did it survive?
thephyber · 2 months ago
She was busy with higher priorities this week:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DLyjaZ5s51o/

arp242 · 2 months ago
There were some dogs that desperately needed shooting?
AtlasBarfed · 2 months ago
Advocating for competent governance is partisan!

Heck of a job, Brownie

booleandilemma · 2 months ago
I call people like this "octopuses". They need to have their tentacles everywhere, need to be involved in everything, no matter how little they're needed.
Yeul · 2 months ago
The US has trillions in deficit but she's worried about pennies.
duxup · 2 months ago
And her party is busy digging a much deeper deficit hole.

I suspect this kind of personal involvement is just about kick backs / graft.

lenerdenator · 2 months ago
Somehow, one of the least unhinged things that woman has ever done.
msla · 2 months ago
https://archive.ph/J35lH

Yeah, there's reasons for that:

> On July 5, as floodwaters were starting to recede, FEMA received 3,027 calls from disaster survivors and answered 3,018, or roughly 99.7 percent, the documents show. Contractors with four call center companies answered the vast majority of the calls.

> That evening, however, Ms. Noem did not renew the contracts with the four companies and hundreds of contractors were fired, according to the documents and the person briefed on the matter.

> The next day, July 6, FEMA received 2,363 calls and answered 846, or roughly 35.8 percent, according to the documents. And on Monday, July 7, the agency fielded 16,419 calls and answered 2,613, or around 15.9 percent, the documents show.

Animats · 2 months ago
That's what's supposed to happen. The Trump administration is shutting down FEMA. Emergency response is now a state responsibility. The interim head of FEMA who told Congress this was a bad move was fired the next day.[1]

Federal disaster relief is now a gift to be given at the whim of the President. Usually, only red states get it. See the list of major disaster declarations here.[2] More details.[3]

[1] https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/3405810/...

[2] https://www.fema.gov/

[3] https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/trump-disaster-policy-tr...

Animats · 2 months ago
Trump reversed position on FEMA today.[1] FEMA no longer ungood.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/us/politics/trump-fema-te...

longfingers · 2 months ago
It seems to me like a Christian who really thought about it could realize the philosophy of God in advance and then his mysterious ways might require less tragedy.
smilbandit · 2 months ago
Phrasing matters. using "didn't" puts a bad light on FEMA but if they used "couldn't" it changes things. no idea which it is but i'd bet it should read "couldn't"
ashoeafoot · 2 months ago
lawsuitwave in 3..2..1

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