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spicyusername · 4 months ago
These discussions are important. It's okay for us, as a society, to make mistakes. Especially if the mistakes are made in an attempt to do "the right thing", whatever that is.

We can only make the decisions we make with the information we have available in the moment, but it is important, later, to be honest with ourselves about the outcomes of the decisions we made and try to learn from them to improve decision making next time.

We shouldn't need to be defensive about this or that, we should follow the data, wherever it leads.

If it turns out the risk from spreading COVID wasn't worth the social and economic damage of lockdowns, that's an important data point to consider when making these kinds of decisions again.

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Terr_ · 4 months ago
Speaking of retrospectives, it seems COVID-19 infection in kids increases their risk of kidney problems.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/research-links-covid-poo...

cempaka · 4 months ago
Not sure how this is relevant to an article about school closures, which were successful in preventing perhaps 0.00001% of children from eventually becoming infected with COVID.
ParetoOptimal · 4 months ago
Plus, repeat covid infections don't make things worse... right?

Oh, wait... repeat covid infections are much worse and even damage T cells similar to HIV.

Plus 1 in 5 covid infections result in long covid.

_aavaa_ · 4 months ago
> something that is utterly absent from “An Abundance of Caution”—any palpable recognition of where all the caution was coming from.

This sums it up. No recognition of there being adults in schools, of there being adults in the homes these children come back to, of Sweden’s substantially higher excess deaths, or of the deaths happening at the same time as the school closures.

votepaunchy · 4 months ago
Sweden ranked second behind only Norway for lowest excess mortality among European Nations.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsde...

ZeroGravitas · 4 months ago
Sweden's death are heavily front loaded though, 60% in the first year when Norway actually had negative excess deaths in that year.

So roughly 14,000 years of life saved in Norway, even if they ended up dying within 2 years anyway.