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bko · 5 months ago
Worth pointing out the history of this policy.

The Final Scientific Integrity Policy of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) was developed in response to the 2021 Presidential Memorandum on Restoring Trust in Government Through Scientific Integrity and Evidence-Based Policymaking. The policy officially went into effect on December 30, 2024

I guess it's going back to what existed since the founding of the NIH in 1887 to the last 4 months.

https://www.faseb.org/journals-and-news/washington-update/ni...

netsharc · 5 months ago
For a dumb analogy, if someone pledged to, let's say "remain faithful in our marriage", and then 4 months later said, "actually, I take back that pledge", what would you think?
credit_guy · 5 months ago
I think this analogy needs a bit of tweaking. The NIH is not a spouse, but a priest that officiates weddings. For a period of time the priests makes the future spouses recite something like "I swear to be faithful to my spouse till Death do us part". And at some point the priest stops including this incantation in the ceremony. It does not mean those couples that swore the oath are free from the oath. It does mean the new couples don't swear the oath. But it's an empirical fact that swearing or not swearing that oath has very little bearing on the actual faithfulness of the spouses.
bko · 5 months ago
What's in the pledge? Why is it necessary? What are the unintented consequences? You shouldn't go by name alone.

If my wife of 20 years asked me to sign some legally binding "fidelity pledge", it would def raise an eyebrow

In other words, if trump said there's some pledge I want NIH to sign that will make sure it's unbias and truth seeking, would you be for it? It could even be in the name , the NIH Truth Seeking Pledge.

philodeon · 5 months ago
Isn’t that what the vows were for?
mjrpes · 5 months ago
Why? Besides being a product of the Biden era, it mentions DEI throughout, a now "illegal" concept. In the land of the free, even words like "equality" and "identity" are now taboo.

https://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-24-1...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/07/us/trump-fede...

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fastaguy88 · 5 months ago
If you read the Final Scientific Integrity Policy, included towards the bottom is the statement:

"and under “Protecting Scientific Processes,” a statement noting that early termination of extramural awards is prohibited except under certain specific circumstances."

Clearly, this is not a policy that the current administration commits to.