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suraci · 5 months ago
weird that the economist uses the word 'reclaim' instead of 'invade'
gizajob · 5 months ago
Yeah technically it would be the Taiwanese reclaiming China.
rdtsc · 5 months ago
We’re helping Taiwan reclaim us back. We just built a cool landing craft to help them make it more efficient.

I can see that propaganda line working!

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Yeul · 5 months ago
How many countries recognize Taiwan sovereignty?

Even as far back as the 1960s the Pentagon considered it a lost cause hence there are no US bases in the island.

ImJamal · 5 months ago
This is a list of countries that have a full diplomatic relationship with Taiwan. Other countries may have varying degrees on recognition of Taiwan

Belize

Eswatini

Guatemala

Haiti

Holy See (Vatican City)

Marshall Islands

Palau

Paraguay

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Saint Lucia

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

Tuvalu

suraci · 5 months ago
it's a lost cause in 1960s, but not now
dismalaf · 5 months ago
Not even Taiwan claims to be a separate country from China, legally they're the "Republic of China".
jdxcode · 5 months ago
did the economist edit the title? it uses "seize"
suraci · 5 months ago
the last time i check it, it was 'relaim'

you can still see the word in the url

that's why i said 'weird', it's very abnormal for the economist, looks like someone had gone astray in his thinking, fortunately, it has now been corrected

mauli · 5 months ago
Same for me, after an auto redirect.. (German IP) - maybe there is some shenanigans going on based on visitor location origin.
borgdefenser · 5 months ago
I am reading a great book right now.

The Tao of Deception: Unorthodox Warfare in Historic and Modern China by Ralph Sawyer.

I am not sure I would listen to anyone but Ralph Sawyer at this point in English on the subject.

China is not going to invade Taiwan the way the US would invade Hawaii in the same situation.

That is just not how China conducts warfare.

Taiwan is another level with all this. What matters is the PLA views it as reclaiming. They have to win by soft power and not "win" like the US going in and blowing the shit out of Iraq.

Disturb the water and catch a fish.

In that context, something like DeepSeek is a much bigger deal as far as the objectives. 1000X more than this decoy.

red-iron-pine · 5 months ago
nah.

China built several -- several, like 8+ -- landing ships designed to support an amphibious assault. if soft power was their goal and primary method they wouldn't have spent the resources.

while they may not ever do it, a very direct, very violent invasion is absolutely on the table. Taiwan may only even be a secondary objective, since #1 would be sinking the US Navy and shifting the hegemonic balance; they'll get to Taiwan when they can after that.

suraci · 5 months ago
what you said is how China planed before 2019, reality's development makes it impossible to act as previously planned, now, there's 0 chance that the CCP can take back Taiwan without bombs

however, it really depends on the definitions of 'reclaim' and 'win'

China's purpose is not only to take the land, but also to 'reunite' taiwanese people, so you're right about they are going to need to use soft power to achieve this, so yes, it will not be like what the US did to Hawaii and Iraq

btw, I briefly looked through the book you mentioned and was surprised to find that, compared to other Westerners, the author has a very good understanding of China's war history and philosophy. Although it is somewhat one-sided, Chinese military philosophy is very different before and after the Han Dynasty

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RaSoJo · 5 months ago
I feel this to be a balanced headline if we put on an editor’s hat: The subject of the sentence is "China." From China’s standpoint, Taiwan was always theirs. Hence, from this viewpoint, it is a "reclaim."
_rm · 5 months ago
From the CCP's standpoint. Both ROC and CCP claim to be the legitimate governors of "China".
gizajob · 5 months ago
From the Taiwanese standpoint, mainland China is theirs.
jackvalentine · 5 months ago
111
thoroughburro · 5 months ago
You seem unaware that both of those countries simultaneously claim to be China. It’s a bit of a thorny problem!

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cjbenedikt · 5 months ago
"...a single Chinese state-owned shipbuilder produced a larger tonnage of commercial vessels in 2024 than America has built since the second world war." Of course, due to the 1920 US "Job's Act" (the irony) there wasn't much ship building left.
neonsunset · 5 months ago
Please fix the title to “China is developing some startling new kit in its quest to invade Taiwan”. Thanks.

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suraci · 5 months ago
btw, here's an article about it in Jan

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/01/china-suddenly-...

Surely the D-day is coming

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AlecSchueler · 5 months ago
I thought we weren't doing politics on HN?
Supermancho · 5 months ago
Folding Tank bridges are technically interesting. eg http://twz.com/former-m60-tanks-fitted-with-folding-bridges-...

Raised? Ship Bridges, with ship feet! These are a whole new thing. Equally interesting. The political implications are incidental.

TiredOfLife · 5 months ago
There is politics and there is events that affect the whole fucking world.