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disposition2 · 7 months ago
> The White House wouldn't comment directly on Coristine's employment, but an official who discussed the situation on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters said all DOGE staffers under Musk were working as employees of relevant agencies with security clearances.

It sounds like they might want to review how they are doing security clearance reviews (assuming they aren't just a blank check for this group) if they're letting folks like this through

mdhb · 7 months ago
Actual real life clearances take between 6 - 12 months or longer depending on backlogs.

These people have zero actual “vetting” but “presidential authority” can just say to give them clearances on the spot which is what happened here.

So they have the legal bit of paperwork but it doesn’t actually mean anything. It was just an override of the regular checks and balances and would you believe it it turns out it’s filled with problems precisely like the process is designed to stop.

pragmatic · 7 months ago
Even public trust (low level) requires som time to complete.

This person obviously was fasttracked and bypassed the most basic of background checks.

tmaly · 7 months ago
Does the president have the authority to grant immediate security clearances?
ZeroGravitas · 7 months ago
Krebsonsecurity reporting suggests that the "cyber security firm" is actually part of a gang of cyber criminals. Story submitted (but flagged and dead) here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42979187

thomasdziedzic · 7 months ago
"He will be brought back. To err is human, to forgive divine."

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1887957783783391423

inverted_flag · 7 months ago
That was for the doge member who made a bunch of racist tweets, not to be confused with the other doge member who made a bunch of racist tweets or the doge member in the OP.
skulk · 7 months ago
off topic (who even cares about the OP) but I heard a clip of Musk saying that "the bureaucracy subverts democracy. I want government by the people, not the bureau" and ... I don't even. Do people really fall for this? Is it not obvious that one bureau is just being sub'd out for another less accountable one? Are people really that stupid?
archagon · 7 months ago
More charitably, it seems relatively easy to hack people at scale by exploiting their cognitive biases. (Especially people lacking humility or self-reflection, e.g. the stereotypical "smart" software engineer.)

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talldayo · 7 months ago
> Do people really fall for this?

Yeah. There are still people that call it "Twitter" in 2025.

anigbrowl · 7 months ago
What a weird comparison. Some people do that to annoy Musk fans, others do it because the original name for something is often preferred to a meaningless rebrand - much as everyone still refers to Alphabet corp as Google.

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drweevil · 7 months ago
So, if a post contains the 4-letter acronym DOGE the Elon hall monitors jump into action and flag it.

This is getting tedious, as are the arguments made to justify flagging the posts. "This has already been discussed." Fine. Start flagging AI posts then. "This has nothing to with tech." But it has everything to do with tech, and one of the most influential players in tech, and how hubris blinds techies into thinking that they have tech answers to all problems (a bit of Dunning-Kruger).

Here are the misconceptions behind the entire idea of DOGE:

* Government waste is assumed as a given. No citations needed.

* Government agencies should be run like a business (or worse, a startup). But government agencies are not businesses. They don't have investors. Their mission is not to make a profit. It is to provide a service and a social good, mandated by Congress. Ideological disagreement with that service or good does not make this waste. The idea that entities like the US Post Office operates at a "loss" is arrant nonsense. The value provided is in the service, without the overhead load of investors.

* "Government bureaucrats" (said with contempt and disdain). Right wing propaganda notwithstanding, these folk are the domain experts in running a government (see point above). The trend of the last decade or so has been to replace many of the lower levels with call centers and/or websites, to the frustration of millions of citizens who require these services.

The tl;dr is that the DOGE ppl don't have a clue. They are operating on false assumptions, and likely are running roughshod over the law. Bulls in a china shop fits here.

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