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slaucon · a year ago
In a similar vein, I always found it interesting (although frightening) that rabies cause hydrophobia. The theory is that drinking water can wash away the virus from your saliva, inhibiting its ability to spread through bites.

It makes sense that a virus passed through saliva would evolve like this, but I just find it particularly unsettling when a pathogen can effect higher-level behaviors like drinking water (or jumping into water for mantises).

brookst · a year ago
The frightening part is that it’s a cognitive effect. That’s crazy. And it opens the whole “how much of our personality is real versus controlled by microbes” question.
wizardforhire · a year ago
Ship of Theseus now with your own mind.
gosub100 · a year ago
Imagine there was a virus or parasite that just made you feel pleasure, all the time, with no tolerance effects?

I wonder what progress has been made in addiction medicine for meds that simply prevent the development of tolerance? If possible, it would fall under the category of harm reduction. Failing the patient to get sober, they could at least continue getting high on the same amount which might prevent their failure to function.

thaumasiotes · a year ago
> I always found it interesting (although frightening) that rabies cause hydrophobia.

Well, there are two potential senses of "hydrophobia".

In its primary use, it means "rabies", and it's not really interesting that rabies would cause that.

In rare cases, it could mean "fear of water", which rabies doesn't cause. Rabies causes pain when swallowing. The pain causes fear through conventional mechanisms.

sebtron · a year ago
I have not checked the sources, but according to Wikipedia [1]:

Rabies has also occasionally been referred to as hydrophobia ("fear of water") throughout its history. It refers to a set of symptoms in the later stages of an infection in which the person has difficulty swallowing, shows panic when presented with liquids to drink, and cannot quench their thirst. Saliva production is greatly increased, and attempts to drink, or even the intention or suggestion of drinking, may cause excruciatingly painful spasms of the muscles in the throat and larynx. Since the infected individual cannot swallow saliva and water, the virus has a much higher chance of being transmitted, because it multiplies and accumulates in the salivary glands and is transmitted through biting.

It seems more than just "pain when swallowing".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies

amelius · a year ago
On the other hand, without saliva the virus cannot spread, and you need water to have saliva.
llamaimperative · a year ago
Evolution has already done the math on this

(Or more precisely, it’s already doing the math, and the current answer is that hydrophobia is the better solution [for rabies’ purposes])

DontchaKnowit · a year ago
That is extremely far fetched
dataviz1000 · a year ago
> Sea turtle hatchlings have an inborn tendency to move in the brightest direction. On a natural beach, the brightest direction is most often the open view of the night sky over, and reflected by, the ocean. [0]

Man made artificial lighting greatly affect sea turtle hatchlings also. There are several groups of volunteers who watch the eggs for hatching and will help the sea turtles make their way towards the sea.

The volunteers use apps to coordinate watching the eggs and there is tons of data collected. Using AI / ML to help determine when the eggs will hatch or creating autonomous drones to watch the eggs and perhaps assist in corralling the hatchlings to the sea would make great PhD dissertation subjects.

[0] https://myfwc.com/research/wildlife/sea-turtles/threats/arti...

Culonavirus · a year ago
> Using AI

...

Do people enjoy this crap being put into every fkin discussion on this site? Because I sure as hell have my tank full.

The28thDuck · a year ago
This is an irate response to a perfectly fine comment. What about AI on HN is ruffling your feathers?
leonim · a year ago
If you are interested in this subject, Carl Zimmer wrote a great book that has all sorts of examples of parasites that control their host: "Parasite Rex: Inside the Bizarre World of Nature's Most Dangerous Creatures"

https://www.amazon.com/Parasite-Rex-Bizarre-Dangerous-Creatu...

sampo · a year ago
The seminal work is the 1982 book "The Extended Phenotype" by Richard Dawkins.
TrackerFF · a year ago
IIRC, there's some parasite that makes the host (some species of insects) climb up plants, as high as possible, so that it can be eaten by birds and other animals.

So that the parasite can reproduce inside the new host, and spread further.

dingnuts · a year ago
Yes, the game and TV show The Last of Us made cordyceps a fairly well known genus
griffzhowl · a year ago
Cordyceps is a bit different in that it makes the host insect clamp down on a branch or twig until death so that when the fruiting body grows out of the host, its spores are spread through the air, where it can infect similar insects.

What OP is talking about sounds more like the lancet liver fluke, which has a stage of its lifecycle inside an ant and a stage inside a grazing animal, so it makes an infected ant climb to the top of a grass stalk. Amazingly, the ants only do this from dusk till dawn, resuming their normal activities if they haven't been eaten by dawn. The rationale seems to be that being exposed to the hot sun during the day could quickly kill the ant along with its passenger flukes

gaoryrt · a year ago
- Cordyceps has long been used in traditional Chinese medicine in the belief it can be used to treat diseases [0]

I think every Chinese person has heard of it since they were kids.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordyceps

TeaBrain · a year ago
Cordyceps are also a major plot device in the novel Cold Storage, which is being developed into a film.
doubleg72 · a year ago
Yes, you recall correctly.
nik282000 · a year ago
I've know about horsehair worms for years and noticed a load of mantises on the road this fall but never made the connection >_<

I wonder how much this lowers the rate of infection in the long term.

andsoitis · a year ago
> infected mantises were attracted to sources with stronger horizontally polarized light.

I wish the article provided and explanation for the mechanism.

toenail · a year ago
They would probably have to guess, but start here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_(waves)

> Many animals are capable of perceiving some of the components of the polarization of light, e.g., linear horizontally polarized light. This is generally used for navigational purposes, since the linear polarization of sky light is always perpendicular to the direction of the sun.

andsoitis · a year ago
I’m aware of that, thanks. What I meant is how does the worm change the mantis to have this perception when they previously didn’t.
undersuit · a year ago
You can wear polarized sun glasses to help block the light reflected off of roads and water like when driving or boating. Seeking stronger horizontally polarized light would historically lead you to a water source. Adult horsehair worms complete their life cycle in water.
FrustratedMonky · a year ago
Look at all the examples of manipulation in this thread. I have to wonder just how manipulated humans are everyday and we don't even realize it. It has become 'human nature'.
tonis2 · a year ago
Just my fantasy scenario, imagine if some kind of yeast/virus affects humans to eat so much sugar, we never need so much sugar, but there's some-kind of yeast inside us that controls us, to create and consume sugar for it.
devmor · a year ago
As far as I am aware this is a legitimate theory and angle of study around the guy microbiome, not just a fantasy.
lambertsimnel · a year ago
> imagine if some kind of yeast/virus affects humans to eat so much sugar

I think the gut microbiome can indeed do this.

The episode called "Swap Out Sugar" of the BBC podcast Just One Thing explains more - the relevant section is from after 7 minutes to before 12 minutes into the episode:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09by3yy/episodes/downloads...

rgrieselhuber · a year ago
I’ve always assumed that this was sort of a known thing.
marcosdumay · a year ago
AFAIK, it's not anything close to "known". But it's an open possibility that is being actively researched and has some supporting evidence.