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aucisson_masque · a year ago
Good bye old friend, you will be remembered for your start menu bloated with candy crush saga and the uninterruptible update whenever the computer felt like.
plorg · a year ago
I'm a big fan of reinstalling all of the default Microsoft online services and resetting your user preferences every time they feel like updating your computer.

If you want to feel real madness try reinstalling Win10 from even the latest installation media, checking for updates, finding none, and then finding your computer restarted the next day with a new iteration of the Bing search box on your taskbar, and repeating this experience at least 4 times.

defrost · a year ago
Here's a minimal -> maximal (choose your own adventure) windows 10 and|or 11 debloat | tweak | install | BYO install utility.

https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UQZ5oQg8XA

The defaults are not at all extreme with the knife, it takes away all the advertorial ad-ons and shows how to disable more (including Edge and defaulting to Edge from system links).

Also includes the ability to mod your own ISO to make a lean clean fast install | boot disk for later on or friends.

It's "open" if you read powershell scripts, it's literally just a pipe from a readable GIT reposity to a powershell GUI that toggles scripts that can be read by clicking on [?]'s.

If nothing else you can select the default recommended updates setting which is no new features just security updates.

Spivak · a year ago
I literally just did this for my partner and while the defaults of everything are ungodly user hostile they haven't yet reset the preferences I set and I've been watching them like a hawk.

I don't love having to keep a loaded gun pointed at tower and constantly being on guard with supposedly above-board software but it seems to stay down.

glouwbug · a year ago
Still missing XP with the classic 98 theme
olyjohn · a year ago
Win2k for life.
trashface · a year ago
The latter problem can be (partially) addressed by setting your network interface to metered mode. Then you get some control over updates.
snarbles · a year ago
My laptop (Win10 home) installed updates over metered connections (and actively combated my efforts to disable the update service, take ownership of the service, etc.). Ultimately the fix was to install Ubuntu.
pipeline_peak · a year ago
Windows 7 with tighter handcuffs
Sohcahtoa82 · a year ago
Remember, just because it's no longer supported doesn't mean it no longer works. If it's within your risk tolerance, you can keep using it.

Too often, people everywhere, even on HN, talk as if end-of-support means you can't use it anywhere anymore.

userbinator · a year ago
That's what the corporate propaganda does to people.

IMHO if you're behind a NAT, not running random binaries, and not visiting untrustworthy pages with JS on, that already gets rid of 99.99% of the attack surface. Keep RDP and SMB off the Internet and shut off the other listening ports too.

Ekaros · a year ago
NAT and not running binaries I might give. But never going to random web site? I don't think that one is going to happen.
sunaookami · a year ago
We shouldn't encourage people to run old software. They will be part of a botnet sooner or later. It sucks yeah but people should rather switch to other operating systems instead of running one without security updates. AFAIK Win10 still gets paid updates though, that will extend the lifespan a bit.
Sohcahtoa82 · a year ago
> and not visiting untrustworthy pages with JS on

Assuming your browser is up-to-date and there isn't a 0-day being exploited, can a malicious website even do anything?

wongogue · a year ago
> NAT

Firewall.

Bad ISP routers with/without NAT are no good.

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dehrmann · a year ago
I'm surprised MS didn't eventually back down on the TPM and CPU generation requirement.
nixdev · a year ago
"It's a big idea, a new world order. When we are successful, and we will be [..]" ~ George H.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing_Group

reginald78 · a year ago
They actually started blocking updates if you tricked the install onto unsupported hardware.
akimbostrawman · a year ago
Switching to Linux has been the best and most technical rewarding decision I have ever done. I miss almost nothing and gained so much.
bob1029 · a year ago
MacOS seems like an obvious alternative to Windows, especially for non-gaming use cases. I can't even tell you which version I'm running on this machine without checking. That's how much the change-over-time doesn't bother me.

Windows on the other hand has me wrapped around a post about 50 times regarding all of its UX quirks. Even the slightest deviation in anything Microsoft always puts me on a ballistic trajectory.

Honestly, Visual Studio is way more upsetting to me than Windows is these days. They are clearly making that experience worse on purpose just to prove they can.

MattDaEskimo · a year ago
I wouldn't say obvious alternative.

PopOS is a wonderful, free, Ubuntu derivative that works really well with video games.

mindcrash · a year ago
So millions of people with small budgets will get into considerable problems when that coutdown hits zero.

People will not buy new computers, while their old one is still technically good, because Microsoft wants them to run Windows 11 on "compatible hardware".

namaria · a year ago
A local IT shop still has a poster up urging people to hire them to update their PCs from Windows 7 to 10 when its EOL was around the corner...
masfoobar · a year ago
I am just looking forward to the end of the year when I finish one of my jobs... allowing me to remove Windows from my laptop. Currently I have to use it!

Does not matter if its Windows 11, Windows 10... or even if its Windows 98. I just want GNU/Linux on it!

All my other machines have Linux.

(to note -- it is Windows 11.. and I have mixed feelings about it)