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jeffwask · a year ago
Just ran into this on Amazon looking to buy a vacuum cleaner, the initial search top search results where all refurbs being sold back by the Amazon refurb service and cost more than the retail price of the same vacuum directly from the Shark store. I had to sculp my search to actually get to the real vendor store (Shark) on Amazon.

You need to be a query engineer to overcome the perverse search algorithm that goes out of its way to sell you junk and knock off's. It didn't used to be this way and how much revenue is enough revenue when it comes at the expense of the consumers.

I can't imagine how difficult it is for regular consumers who haven't developed these skills as part of their job to navigate these sites now.

r00fus · a year ago
I use Amazon for basic reviews (knowing sellers and reviewers fully game this) to get an idea of basic considerations, then buy locally or via some other online portal.

I only actually buy stuff on Amazon that are low-cost, non-critical items or if the shipping time is critical and I can't get it locally.

DangitBobby · a year ago
Can anyone knowledgeable about this stuff explain this?

> “This case has never been about how much tax we pay, but which government we are required to pay it to,” Apple said in a statement on Tuesday. “The European Commission is trying to retroactively change the rules and ignore that, as required by international tax law, our income was already subject to taxes in the U.S.”

Is Apple being treated differently here in any way than other international companies?

jdalgetty · a year ago
Let’s see how much of these fines actually get paid.
TheFragenTaken · a year ago
There's nothing regarding Google in the article, but it is specifically mentioned that Apple's back taxes are already in escrow.
throw310822 · a year ago
Since 2018. Can't help thinking that if with that money they had bought Apple shares, it would be now 3 times more.
oliwarner · a year ago
Apple already has €1.2bn interest on top of their 2016 ruling. They could probably try to keep this in courts but it seems unlikely they'll get further hearings on this now.

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dizzydiz · a year ago
Ireland were petitioning heavily for them not to pay, but now get a windfall all the same.

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fidotron · a year ago
The true losers here are Ireland.

It is interesting how places like Luxembourg get away with similar antics.

orwin · a year ago
In this case it's quite easy: Luxembourg does not discriminate between the companies that want to use their country for tax breaks, they will all be treated/taxed the same. Ireland did not apply the same tax rate on every companies, which distort competition and is anti-market behavior, and the ECJ just validated that.
zer0c00ler · a year ago
Wild that this about behavior from 7 years ago - imagine additional fines that will need to be paid in 7 years for current market manipulation by some of these giant players (incl in US). Things are moving really slow. The amounts are also just a drop in the bucket...

Splitting up Google seems more and more likely, probably would raise the overall market cap and drive innovation

Mountain_Skies · a year ago
Wonder how liability for actions taken by Google and other tech companies would be divvied up if some of them split into smaller companies.

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