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weinzierl · 2 years ago
"Who among us hasn’t walked up to a drinking fountain, expecting a bubbling stream of life-giving water, only to experience the crushing disappointment of a measly trickle after smashing in that button?"

That'd be me. I traveled quite a bit all over the world and these seem to be a pretty American thing.

It's also a bit strange because for the countries that have them it is generally not recommended to drink tap water and for the few countries where tap water is considered safe to drink they are virtually non-existent.

bombcar · 2 years ago
From my travels the USA is way more concerned with water-saving devices, even in areas where there really is no water conservatory problems.

Toilets in Europe will still seem to flush using the full power of Niagara Falls, which are quite rare in the US now.

DoughnutHole · 2 years ago
Possibly an instance of the California effect?

National manufacturers have to design toilets for western states where conservation is a huge issue - might just be cheaper to sell those toilets nationwide than to have a different product line for wetter states.

TeMPOraL · 2 years ago
You use more water flushing, or more water scrubbing your hands, after having to scrub your toilet due to insufficient flushing pressure.
HeatrayEnjoyer · 2 years ago
Europe doesn't have the water scarcity issues of the US. When my brother in law from Germany visited a few summers ago he was shocked by the amount of drought news and water conservation instructions broadcast daily on TV.
Johnny555 · 2 years ago
even in areas where there really is no water conservatory problems

Is there really an area that never faces water conservation measures?

Even normally wet Washington State is facing a drought due warm weather resulting in lower than normal snowpack, which is where much of the drinking water comes from.

https://m.kuow.org/stories/washington-state-drought-emergenc...

mynameisnoone · 2 years ago
The style of toilet matters in the US. The problem is that the cheapest toilets tend to also meet all sorts of greenwashing (no pun intended) certifications while being unreliable, smaller, and not very good. Tankless ones are far more expensive initially, but are more reliable, flush with greater force, and use little water.
lores · 2 years ago
Most toilets in Western Europe, at least new ones, have two buttons for low and high flow. Low flow is not an unalloyed good, though, it leads to sewer lines getting clogged, which can be a pretty expensive thing to fix depending on where the sewer access is.
kurthr · 2 years ago
Oh man, don't forget the ones that spray 8 feet into the air!

At least you can usually tell, if the ground is wet around it... that it's going to take your head off, if you put your mouth over it before turning the knob.

p.s. europeans just have fountains, and you drink the water out them with your shoe like it's champagne!

daviesYC · 2 years ago
Ha, I was just about to mention the 8' spray and surrounding puddle of evidence. What a waste... too bad I don't live in Europe, I would enjoy drinking shoe champagne.
icambron · 2 years ago
I'm not quite following; are you saying it's not recommended that you drink American tap water? Or that there are bunch of other countries with sketchier water full of drinking fountains?
weinzierl · 2 years ago
I would not drink American tap water, at least not in the cities that I travelled. It always smelt like chlorine and from what I googled apparently up to 4 milligrams per liter are regularly allowed in the US. This is definitely not a thing in western Europe. We don't need to talk about the things that you cannot taste or smell and what happened in Flint.
CivBase · 2 years ago
Since when was it "generally not recommended" to drink tap water in America? Most places I've been in America the water looks, smells, and tastes just like the stuff they sell in bottles.
the__alchemist · 2 years ago
Interesting! USA seems to be the only country I've visited that drinks tap water, let alone has water fountains.
WheatMillington · 2 years ago
I'm not super well travelled, but of the ~9 of the ~10 countries I've been to, including where I live (New Zealand) it's normal to drink tap water. Thailand was the exception for me.

Water fountains are somewhat normal in New Zealand and Australia.

Angostura · 2 years ago
Got them in the UK. Together with their new cousins, designed specifically for refilling water bottle to cut down on plastic waste.

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luxuryballs · 2 years ago
perhaps where nobody is drinking the water there’s also no rationing of pressure or incentive to minimize flow for cost savings
walthamstow · 2 years ago
I miss water fountains that you can drink directly from, as opposed to those that can only fill up a bottle. There's one outside Blackhorse Road tube that only does the latter, you have to contort yourself to drink directly from it and people will look at you like you're mad.
nlunbeck · 2 years ago
I always prefer the bottle filling stations over drinking fountains, for the 20% of the time that I actually have a bottle with me.

In gyms/libraries/airports it always feels like refilling stations get 5x more use than drinking fountains, but when you're anywhere else, what are the odds you're carrying a bottle?

plutoh28 · 2 years ago
Consider getting a water bottle?
walthamstow · 2 years ago
Why do you think it's a good thing that I must have a bottle with me in order to drink from a public water fountain?

To be clear, I think fountains should do both direct drink and bottle fill-up.

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rascul · 2 years ago
Not about the button, but I am reminded of a Parks and Recreation clip about water fountain hygiene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoCOQb2u-N8

whartung · 2 years ago
I always preferred the spring loaded knobs (or levers) that you twist compared to the buttons you press down. More leverage, easier to use and modulate if necessary.
mynameisnoone · 2 years ago
I remember those. 4-sided either rounded bulbs or paddles that blended into the central hub. The disadvantage is that they require fine motor control and so aren't accessible to all people. The problem though is that most of the pushbutton types tend to require too great of force to be usable by anyone. I prefer the crashbar button type that requires some force to engage but much less force to remain engaged.
openplatypus · 2 years ago
Meanwhile in Germany:

0.50€ for tap water in restaurant

No public drinking water facilities

netsharc · 2 years ago
Suuure... where are you in Germany?

https://overpass-turbo.eu , the sample query is already for drinking fountains. I navigated so Berlin is on the map and clicked Run, and it shows me all drinking water fountains on the map. A few of them even have image links, for example: https://imgur.com/d6UheOw

TylerE · 2 years ago
I mean, I went two towns to the east to the decent sized town of Villanova and it only showed 3 for the entire town.
chiffre01 · 2 years ago
Maybe it's just me, but it looks like every fountain turned off during during the pandemic will never to be turned back on?
tnmom · 2 years ago
Just you; in my comparatively sane state most were never turned off and those that were came back within a few months.
bombcar · 2 years ago
Even around here there's a few that seem to still be off, and I think just because nobody ever bothered to complain or turn them back on.

Someday I'll get arsed enough to figure out where the valve/plug is.

Don't even get me started on water fountains that require power.

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faefox · 2 years ago
Not at all true in my experience though I have seen a jump in the number of fountains with integrated hands-free bottle fillers (which is a win in my book).
lukas099 · 2 years ago
Loss of water fountains hits me in the feels. Really representative of the erosion of the commons and public trust to me.
pjs_ · 2 years ago
Bold to post this on a website for people who are paid millions to make buttons on the computer